It just comes down to over-moderation; too many people have too much control over what is posted.
Yes, an author's book is an author's, but a permies thread belongs to the whole community. Frequently it is not what is being said, but how it is being said. There is a huge difference between, "I'm angry and frustrated because XYZ happened to me," and "this horrible thing happened to me so everybody who works as an XYZ is a lousy, incompetent jerk."
A person would never tell an author, "leave room for other people's ideas", that would be silly, they are author's, of course they are going to be biased; everyone expects them to be!
Judith Browning wrote:
On the other hand, my nosy self is quite curious about what went down last night
Amy Francis wrote:And breathe......
A person can give the messenger flack on this for sure, but I have just noticed that the moderating has swung a little too far in the past few months.
Now how that is corrected, is up for debate. Does it mean there are too many moderators? Perhaps, limiting the moderators would certainly reduce the amount of opinions and thus the potential for over-stepping their limits. But another answer might be to just point out that a problem is developing and to remind moderators to not overstep their control. Having tons of moderators, be less restrictive, would ease the problem s well.
Travis Johnson wrote:Some people need to leave for sure, but I think a lot of good people are leaving too because of over-moderation.
Burra Maluca wrote: Which actually means that moderation is now slower and softer than it used to be.
Dan Boone wrote:Being involved in moderation here at Permies is not my first moderation rodeo, or even my fifth. I've been involved in various online forums with various levels of participation in moderation processes for nearly thirty years. (The first one was so long ago, the reader software dialed a modem to connect to the forum, then downloaded all the new posts in threads you were subscribed to for you to read offline, and then hung up the modem to free up your phone line and keep you from racking up per-minute phone charges.)
What we've got going on here at Permies is not just unusual, it's singular. As a community, it's a spectacular success, however constraining we each may find it in a particular moment. Maybe the way it works is not the way I would have set it up. That means nothing; I've set up forums. They are gone; they are forgotten. Maybe they worked briefly, but they didn't thrive.
So when people say, not even "run the site my way or I will leave" but just "if you ran the site my way it would be better" I don't credit it much. I think that too, every day. And then I remember that when a very complex and hard thing to do is working, the wise often choose not to fuck with it. Tend it, yes; groom it and pet it, yes. But not fuck with it. "If I break this, could I build another one?" "Er, no, remember that one time you tried, and people stayed away in droves?"
paul wheaton wrote:Dan ... compuserve and tapcis? Or something with fido?
r ranson wrote:If you write something and think "I wonder if those stinking moderators will take issue with this?" then STOP! Take a break and have your favourite hot beverage of choice. Come back and re-write the post.
Morning came much too soon and it brought along a friend named Margarita Hangover, and a tiny ad.
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