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Dan Boone gardens, plants fruit trees, and tends wild fruit and nut trees and vines in Central Oklahoma.
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"Is it legal" is one of those fractal questions that can be very hard to answer.  Does the state of Maryland have a law against it? A water quality regulation that regulates it? How about the county, or your municipality? Or is here a property association that has an enforceable opinion? A rural water district that operates wells that tap an aquifer recharged by your land?  And that's even before we get to the Federal questions.  I wouldn't expect a relevant federal statute, but in the many many volumes of the code of federal regulations, who knows?  Watershed protection or surface water quality special zones are everywhere, under state and federal law or all the way down to municipal level; they sometimes prohibit stuff that is totally OK just on the other side of a contour line through your backyard that you can't even see.  And then we get to the "what effect does the presence of the outhouse have on my ability to insure or finance or refinance or sell" and... there's more, but you get the idea.  The only answer you can hope to get is that Permies bugaboo, "it depends" or "it's complicated".

I am not trying to make this harder than it needs to be, I just want to illustrate why there likely isn't a simple yes/no answer you can get here at Permies.  Maybe you can get some "I had one on the western edge of Bosephus County and never had legal problems" anecdotes, but even then you won't know if maybe just the relevant authorities never noticed.  Nothing short of several hours of research by a sharp local lawyer who has a good topographical map with your property marked on it who also knows his land use and environmental and health/safety stuff pretty well, is going to give you a firm answer.

3 hours ago

Ryan Adobe wrote:
What are you planning to use to pipe that water around the property?



Perhaps it betrays my humble origins but I was imagining a dozen wooden shoulder yokes so folks could easily haul their water buckets to and fro.  

But then again, I grew up in a pre-electric, pre-plumbing town where this (seventy-foot hand-dug well, large redwood water tank on upper floor, windmill-powered pump) was the municipal water source, so there was a fair bit of bucket-carrying going on.  

Two years and a few months since the last load of chips, and my pile was getting painfully small.  Definitely not enough for another summer's gardening, and none at all to spare for bigger jobs like filling mudholes.

I was lounging on my bed, taking a social media break between projects, when I started hearing distant but quite loud anomalous engine noises.  "What's that noise?" I wondered.  

It turned out to be a West tree service truck just up the road, visible from the end of my driveway.  And I could see that they were just about full up with nice hyperlocal chips!  So I wandered up there.  Turns out their nearest chip dumping site today is nearly 45 minutes away.  "Gentlemen, I bring you good news... just dump them over there!" (points)

Ultimately that wasn't quite the good deal as it seemed; they came in to the dumpsite from a funny angle sideways across my yard that nobody has ever used before, found a soft spot I did not know about, and got their truck thoroughly stuck.  By the time they got unstuck they had only dropped about 2/3 of their load; they dropped the rest on the driveway of a neighbor who helped them get unstuck.  Foreman/driver commented to me "I should have just backed in from the street" and I had a very hard time not agreeing with him too enthusiastically.  

For all that, the crew went away happy; I believe I still saved them an hour of travel time and that may have been their lunch hour.  Foreman says he's sharing my address (and notes on not getting stuck) with the other crews in the area.  So maybe I'll get some more loads, although personally if I had gotten a truck stuck at a drop location I would never send another crew there.  

Photos include a chip security dog, included for scale.  "Sit! Stay!  No, dammit, stay longer!  Good girl."
1 day ago
Garage sales. And eating out our usual once-a-month.  
2 days ago

Dan Boone wrote:
So now begins the experimental herbalism.  There are really two experimental questions: (1) does yarrow leaf tincture offer similar benefits (pain relief and reduction of inflammation) as the root tincture; and (2) even if it might, how much of these virtues may be realized from frost-stunted, semi-dormant winter foliage?  

Thus, today I went out and foraged a pint jar full of the best and most lush yarrow leaves I could find.  The weather was super fine in the low 60s, and it took very little time, most of that spent separating out a few random frost-tolerant weeds and dried grass stems.  I gave my leaves a rinse in cold water (to remove bug detritus and random dirt, and for psychological comfort, seeing as how there's nowhere on this property that my huge dogs might not have peed since the last time it rained) and set them steeping in vodka.  

I'll update further as events warrant.  I am not expecting super potency, but I am curious what I get and whether/how it works for me.



OK, another update time.  My winter-harvested yarrow leaf tincture (kept in my liquor cabinet, dark and slightly above room temperature) brewed up strong and potent without blending, heat, or any further attention.  I tested it after a week and it was strong and full of the "tingle" sensation that seems to accompany the pain relief when using the root tincture.  (It's not the alcohol; that provides a burn and some slight numbing, but nothing like as effectively as the bright/sharp tingle from either yarrow tincture.)

I want to say that the leaf tincture is not quite as strong as the root tincture.  But it gets the job done even when diluted 50/50 with water, which often makes it more pleasant to keep/swirl either tincture around unhappy dental situations. Warming it slightly (to just above blood temp) also makes either tincture more pleasant to use.

The leaf tincture has a much stronger bitter yarrow flavor than the root tincture.  I can imagine some finding it unpleasant; I do not.  But it is certainly more bitter.

I don't have a good way to measure or compare the antibiotic effect of either type of tincture.  But there seems to be some in both cases.

All told, my impression is that the root is better than the leaf for my purposes.  But the leaf is very satisfactory, so much so that I picked more leaves and started another batch, this one in the amount of however much vodka I could pour into a leaf-stuffed quart mason jar.
6 days ago

paul wheaton wrote:This might be our 30th attempt for a reliable water source.  

Here is the first try.  We thought that in this spot, the water would be about 8 or 10 feet deep.  So we dug a 16 foot deep hole.





OMG that is one dry-ass lookin' hole.  I suppose it's OK to laugh, now that you've got a well I guess.  But that had to suck.

I think the thread I saw was the one where you had the excavator down on a bench in a huge hole, going deeper.  
This is awesome!  I remember when you were searching for shallow surface water with the big excavator without much success.  Reliable water -- even in a modest quantity like this -- is going to be transformative, I'm thinking.

thomas rubino wrote:Now an elk is quite a bit larger . You really want a saw when dealing with a #500+ animal



I suppose it may depend on how one is segmenting the animal for packing.  Riverboat hunting for moose, where we could usually drop an animal within a few hundred yards of the beach, my father used nothing really except his regular hunting knife and a skinning knife (bit of a curved cutting area).  He'd open and gut the carcass with the hunting knife, then skin as much of the animal as he could reach (with cursing children hauling on leg ropes and such to manipulate parts of the animal).  Then he'd start cutting off quarters using the tip of his hunting knife to pop the joints.  We never used a saw, except that one time that nobody speaks of where there was a frozen carcass of uncertain provenance (somebody knew, just not me) and dubious legality that got chainsawed into chunks as a team effort for rapid removal from the public gaze.  

I believe we carried a small bowsaw in the boat for removal of hooves from the quarters, in the event that we somehow shot a moose so deep in the woods that we'd need to backpack it out (rather than just staggering to the boat with two people on each end of a heavy chunk).  But I don't remember ever using it.

We had a family friend who scoffed at my father's two knives and once insisted on showing us how to skin and quarter a moose with nothing more than the same two-inch pen knife that he used for skinning rabbits.  That looked like it took real skill, though.
1 week ago
I built a compost digester in heavy clay soil from a container made out of heavy galvanized mesh, to support my banana tree.  It's working well as a composter (I'm not sure the banana tree roots reached it in its first season though) but it did tend to go anaerobic in really wet weather.  I'm not convinced that's a huge problem since it's not in a place where I have to smell it:

https://permies.com/t/138578/permaculture-projects/Finally-built-compost-digester-planted

Many years ago I also built a couple of "rat digester" from large PVC pipe for the dead animals my dogs left all over the yards.  It's in an out-of-the-way corner of the yard (where it feeds a tree I like)  because it's uncovered, potentially stinky, and may attract flies.  The first one did have some larvae crawl out, so I build another one really tall (opening is about head height) and never had any problems or bug issues with it.

https://permies.com/t/42292/super-easy-rat-composter


There are several other relevant links and photos re: compost digesters in the rat digester thread.
2 weeks ago

Mathew Trotter wrote:
Damn. Apparently I'm just blind tonight.

I didn't see anything on Jung Seed about backorders...

https://www.jungseed.com/product/J00400/580

But at this rate, I probably missed it.



I really do appreciate your efforts to help! But I would like to persuade you that I really did check all the AAS listed sources before I put that link in the OP.  My initial report of my findings was "Everybody I checked is out of stock except for a few weird places whose shopping carts did not show stock amounts or out-of-stock indicators on anything."

Jung was one of those weird places; Totally Tomato was another.  They use the same shopping cart software and I suspect them of being white-label affiliate sites for some more distant supplier.  I apologize if I was not clear enough that I am looking for "in stock" sources, not "sources that don't report out of stock".  My default experience with seed companies whose shopping cart software doesn't report in-stock or out-of-stock is that hard-to-find items there are most likely to be out of stock, but you won't find out until days or weeks later when they process your order by hand (maybe refunding, maybe keeping your money for months while they hope stock returns).  Maybe I've just been unlucky.  

Again, I appreciate the help.
2 weeks ago