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dimensional lumber woodworking
instruction, regulation, insurance, safety, etc

Projects involve dimensional lumber, either from a sawmill or purchased.   No plywood, waferboard or particle board.    Includes construction, cabinetry and fine woodworking.

Power tools, nails, screws are used, but hopefully less than in most construction.   A little more emphasis on good joinery.

Much less glue than most construction these days.  

No paint. possibly some tung oil or linseed oil - but just a little.  A lot of emphasis on untreated wood.

sand badge

wood-burned sign

(Swanson list) Complete 2 of:
  -simple beginner bird house
  -lay 10 sticks for decking
  -Sturdy firewood rack
  -two step stool
  -sturdy wall-mounted shelf for heavy stuff
       - at least 6' long, 18" deep and can hold 500 lbs of stuff
  -wood box/crate
  -install 40 square feet of boards to a structure for siding (inside or out)
  -simple, open toolbox

straw badge

4 additional items from the Swanson list
basic shelves
   - custom sized for a need, at least 2 shelves high and 6 feet wide
bench with a back
small deck
picnic table

wood badge

knockdown shelves
   - zero glue or metal, 3 shelves tall and 2-6 feet wide
cutting board
   - zero glue or metal, 2 dovetail splines and pegs
   - inch and a half thick and at least 12 inches by 18 inches
adirondack chair
rolly shelf
   - at least 8 feet tall, 3 feet deep and 6 feet wide
mediocre folding chair
good folding chair
simple bed or bunk bed
wood bucket (almost water tight)
   - Uses no glue, holds 3 gallons and has a handle
chest of drawers
   - at least 3 drawers and each drawer is at least 12 inches deep, 18 inches wide and 8 inches tall
clever picnic table
   - featuring some type of transformation

iron badge

fine floor
padded chair frame (see textiles for the rest of the chair)
couch frame (see textiles for the rest of the couch)
wood bucket (water tight)
storage chest
   - lid hinge is a wooden knuckle joint
   - at least 24 inches wide, 14 inches high and 20 inches deep
   - no metal or glue
blanket chest
   - padded seat and at least 36 inches wide, at least 20 inches high and 16 inches deep
   - no metal or glue
japanese nested tool box with a hinged lid
   - hinge is a wooden knuckle joint
   - at least 24 inches wide, 14 inches high and 10 inches deep
   - no metal or glue
japanese tool chest
   - two drawers and one swinging door

skiddable structure (pick two)
   - sauna
         o interior at least 5x10 and 7 feet tall with seating for 12 and a rocket heater
   - hammock hut
         o interior at least 8x16 and 8 feet tall
         o broad, strong roof (to hold up hammocks and hammock chairs) and a floor
   - outdoor kitchen
         o interior at least 6.5x12 and 7 feet tall
         o at least 3 walls
         o work surface plus shelves with a modular design that allows portable rocket oven and rocket cook tops to be moved in and out
   - build a skiddable lumber storage shed
         o interior at least 8x12 and 8 feet tall

build a small, rough porta-cabin on skids
   - interior dimension of at least 6.5x11
   - includes a small porch and at least two operable windows
   - includes an insulated door and simple bunk beds
build a larger, nicer porta-cabin
   - interior dimension of at least 8x16
   - includes a porch that can sit two people and at least three operable windows

final project (pick one)
   - hot tub hut, complete with a water tight wooden hot tub, on skids
   - a magnificent desk with two hidden compartments
   - a magnificent captain’s bed
         o high bed with oodles of drawers underneath and at least two hidden compartments
   - other project requiring pre-approval
         o moving parts
         o hidden compartments
         o especially magnificent
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Some thoughts...
Sand badge:
Cut 10 boards squarely to the exact length needed (within 1/64th or better) using chop saw or within 1/16th inch using hand saw
Cut 10 boards to width within 1/8" over their length

Straw badge:
Plane 10 board edges to be smooth and square to the face of the boards and to the desired width within 1/32nd inch
Plane 10 boards flat and to the right thickness within 1/8" (or maybe better)
Make hide glue so you can glue stuff without getting in trouble with Paul

I guess these could be hidden requirements to complete the projects already listed so take them for what they're worth...

Other stuff:

Make a mallet
Make tool handles and install them
Maybe an outhouse/willow feeder as a later project (unless they're considered round wood buildings)
 
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What about disassembling pallets and using the salvaged wood, for sand or straw badge? Looks like a BB hasn't been made for that yet so maybe I'll take a crack at it. Just completed a second table/shelf from pallets I took apart!
 
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Or just building anything out of pallets! E.g. https://permies.com/t/8617/critters/fence-pallets

Maybe disassembly can be a sand badge bit and various builds with pallets can each be sand or straw badge bits (or even a pallet cabin for an iron badge bit).

I built a compost bin 4x4x4 ft. out of pallets, that was a good educational project when I barely knew any woodworking. Now I'm disassembling pallets and building shelves and tables. Sometimes a puzzle to find the right lumber sizes but I think that just makes it an even better learning experience.
 
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R Spencer wrote:What about disassembling pallets and using the salvaged wood, for sand or straw badge? Looks like a BB hasn't been made for that yet so maybe I'll take a crack at it. Just completed a second table/shelf from pallets I took apart!



I would much rather emphasize projects that use the massive excess of wood that we already have here.  

Pallet wood includes the need for NOT using the stuff that has been treated with toxic gick.  Compounded by the problem that "everybody" knows to look out for that, but they always seem to forget when they are picking up the pallets.  Further, there is a petroleum footprint when fetching the pallets - which could be doubled or tripled if you go and they are currently out of pallets.  Further still, it seems that pallet places are picking up on this interest in pallets and starting to charge!

So pallet stuff is a win, in that it is pulling stuff out of the waste stream, but has some downsides which folks like to not mention.  

But with wildfires and people burning mountains of wood in an effort to minimize wildfires, I would prefer to advocate using that wood for a variety of things instead of burning it.  All coupled with a sustainable forestry program, or even better, a permaculture woodland program.





 
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You might want to consider forking this one.  Construction type skills & projects can be very different than furniture.  A person could still gain the same basic skills, but moving up to straw or wood, if you are building a shed that is very different than a chest of drawers.
 
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That's why we have the other badges, like natural building, woodland care and roundwood.
 
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I'd like to propose adding some options in the place of the deck boards.  Maybe several different things you could do and pick one.  Keep the birdhouse and sign as mandatory and allow the permie to chose one of the following:

lay 10 decking boards
build a rack for equipment or firewood
build a simple bookshelf
build a simple workbench
install 40 square feet of siding on a skiddable structure

I'm thinking these are all projects that require many of the same skills (measuring, cutting, drilling, screwing/nailing, keeping things square, building for strength, etc)
 
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could a skidable woodshed (for drying firewood) be worked somewhere into this list?  I would probably be using mostly reclaimed materials from old pallets.  
 
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r ranson wrote:could a skidable woodshed (for drying firewood) be worked somewhere into this list?  I would probably be using mostly reclaimed materials from old pallets.  



Short answer:   this badge does not inlude pallet stuff.   For further discussion on pallet use in pep stuff, we could start a new thread.    Skiddable woodshed is currently part of woodland care.


 
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This is my BB for wood burning.

I think I will now have met the requirements for the Dimensional Lumber Woodworking Sand Badge.

The two BB's I completed from the Swanson List are:
Build a wood box or crate
Build a simple toolbox
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Congratulations on your new badge!

 
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I believe I qualify for the Dimensional Lumber Woodworking Sand Badge.

Here is my crappy birdhouse: permies.com/p/923273, dated 05/15/2019

Here are my you-pick-twos:
Here is my wood-burned sign: permies.com/p/925624, dated 05/19/2019
Here is my deck: permies.com/p/1000940, dated 10/16/2019

And an extra one - here is the siding BB, awaiting confirmation: permies.com/p/1012826, dated 11/07/2019.
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Congrats on your spiffy new badge!

 
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I think I just completed the Dimensional Woodworking Sand badge:

Wood burned sign
Crappy birdhouse
Lay 10 sticks for decking
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I certify this badge is complete.

 
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Hi, I believe I've completed the Sand Badge for D.L. Woodworking!


###My BB Links:
- Wood Burned Sign: https://permies.com/p/1108170

###Swanson List (2):
- Simple Open Toolbox: https://permies.com/p/1146252
- Wood Box: https://permies.com/p/1145667
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Looks good. Enjoy the badge.

 
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Straw Badge:
4 more items from the Swanson list


Repeats permitted?
 
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I would think "no repeats" but I'm not sure what Paul would say.
 
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Would building a planter box come under this somewhere, or would it be somewhere else?
 
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There's a BB in Sand for "Build a box/crate".  That could fit.  And if it's really big and you put "siding" on it, you might be able to claim the 40 square feet of siding but that would be a stretch.  Otherwise it would belong in the Oddball badge...
 
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I would like to apply for my (first ever) Sand Badge for Dimensional Lumber. Here are my completed BBs:

Wood Burned Sign
Beginner Bird House
Wood Crate
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You are hereby certified for your Sand badge in Dim Woodworking! Congratulations!

 
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Here is my submission for the Dimensional Lumber Woodworking Sand Badge.

You can check out my profile page here.

  Wood-Burned Sign (Part 1)
  Wood-Burned Sign (Part 2 and certified)
  Swanson List - Build a Nice Birdhouse
  Swanson List - Build a 2-Step Stool
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Is pine tar oil allowed for use in these BBs??

I worked with some a few weeks ago and it smelled like smoked fish! it was awesome!
Pine Tar oil
 
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Just talked to Paul about it and he is interested.  If you post pics of the process of making the tar, you'll be good to go.  I don't think just buying pine tar is what he'd be in favor of.
 
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thanks for the reply mike.
I am in the middle of making a https://permies.com/wiki/148675/pep-dimensional-woodworking/Build-Large-Porta-Cabin-Skids.

Do people also need to make the lindseed oil and tung oil which is allowed in this bb?

I mostly want to know if using a tiny bit for the skids would disqualify me.

I really would not want to go through the process of building it and taking the photos and putting them up on here just for it to be not accepted, because i used some pine tar oil on the skids.

maybe using the stuff isn't necessary for the skids. Do you know if at the lab do they use anything for the mating surfaces of the cross pieces for their skids?


On another note, making pine tar looks almost exactly like making biochar.
 
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I think Paul's just uninformed about pine tar and doesn't know anything about it.  So seeing the process would help him figure it out.  

You don't need to make the other sorts of "approved" oils.

Maybe make the pine tar and post separately about it and I'll direct Paul's attention towards it for a possible early read.

Skids at the lab or basecamp aren't protected at all...
 
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Applying for my Dimensional Lumber Badge

Make a sign
https://permies.com/p/1282094

Simple beginner bird house
https://permies.com/p/1282137

Simple open toolbox
https://permies.com/p/1288902
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My PEP dimensional lumber woodworking sand badge submissions are as follows:

Wood burned sign
Simple, open toolbox
Wood box / crate

Thank you for the PEP framework; it provides just the right nudge and motivation.
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:

You don't need to make the other sorts of "approved" oils.



Some of the projects say to use no oil -- however, I think I'd prefer to use a small amount of linseed oil --

Should I just wait until after I submit for the BB ... (and add oil afterwards, haha) Or would a small amount of linseed oil be allowed ... like on the tool box for example.
 
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If it says "no oil" and you have oil on it, I'm guessing your submission will get rejected...
 
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Ash Jackson wrote:

Straw Badge:
4 more items from the Swanson list


Repeats permitted?



Mike Haasl wrote:I would think "no repeats" but I'm not sure what Paul would say.



Is there a verdict on "4 additional items from the Swanson list"?

For instance, my first "crate" was this useful compost sifter, which I'm very much enjoying.  And this week I'm building a different style crate to store and support an apple grinder and apple press for juice / cider making.  

1) Would this second crate count towards Straw badge as an "additional item"?
2) If not, can I still submit my cider crate over here and get another BB?
3) Or does it need to go into the realm of Oddball?
 
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With another year of experience under my belt, I can now say that the 4 have to be different BBs from the 2 you made in Sand.

You can submit it and get the same BB again but it wouldn't get you any further down the PEP path.  

I think that once you've done a skill, doing it over and over again for oddball doesn't really meet the spirit of PEP.  If they're different enough, then maybe.  Imagine if you made boxes for a living, we wouldn't want to see 40 submissions a day to oddball for it.  

Once I've got all the tree cutting BBs, I can't just cut more and submit them for oddball.

Maybe it's a fuzzy line but hopefully it makes sense?
 
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Looks like I satisfied the requirements for the dimensional lumber sand badge a few days ago and overlooked that.

wood-burned sign
simple beginner bird house
two step stool
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Congratulations on your newest sand badge!

 
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I'd like to apply for the Straw Badge:

Make a sign

Simple Open Toolbox

Simple beginner bird house

Cheers!
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Congratulations on your next badge!

 
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Hey, what do you know I finished my first sand badge! - Might be the only one I can get here, hah!

Here's my simple open toolbox
And my wood-burned sign
And I just made a two step stool yesterday.
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Congratulations on your first sand badge!

 
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