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I've read that asparagus and strawberries are really happy together, so since you mention later that you can never have enough strawberries, I thought I'd just mention that. It's on my list to build a bed for that combo, but I'm still at the "turning the clay into soil" and "protect it from the deer" stages.On the right is asparagus and horse radish
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Catherine Carney wrote:Unfortunately I don't think there are seeds for toilet paper trees available
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My quick thought is some number 10 cans cut in half as tubes around the strawberries to keep the mulch from covering them up. A circle woven out of willow whips might do the job? Let's keep thinking of a simple, round barrier about 6 inch diameter.I was thinking about adding strawberries there, or maybe also with my artichoke, but I've been doing deep mulching to keep out the weeds, and I'm wondering how to manage that with strawberries.
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John F Dean wrote:Hi Nicole,
I suspect most here are aware of the back to the land/homestead movement that took hold in the late 60s and 70s and somewhat later. I suspect far fewer are aware of the earlier Have More Plan that was much earlier. I have not done much reading on it, but it appears to have been a post WW2 extension of the Victory Garden concept. It was popularized by the Robinson's among others. My parents were part of that and moved me from Detroit to southern Illinois. Of course, I climbed on board with the Shuttleworths after picking up a copy of Mother Earth in the late 70s. I bring this up because some of the garden designs seem to go back to the Have More period. Thanks for the flash back.
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Steven A Smith wrote:I hit up a farmer-friend who hoards her supplies for about a dozen plant-starter trays so I can start building "Victory Garden" starters for my less inclined friends who suddenly find themselves confronted with spending more time at home (telecommute or just not-working) and the worry that grocery supply chains may fail on them.
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Steven A Smith wrote:
I was heartened to find this Victory Garden thread. My parents came of age during WWII (my father joined/served only in the last few months of the war) and grew some kind of garden all their lives... passing the basics on to me.
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Joanna Marie wrote:Great post and awesome poster! Can I borrow it for my Facebook page? I am a food security program coordinator in BC Canada and I am running a contest to get people growing gardens and this would be perfect!
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Catherine Carney wrote:Glad you posted this. I was out yesterday turning over the first beds for kale, chard, and cereal rye (I know, the rye should have been planted last fall....). Planting a garden is my way of taking control, at least a little bit, of the COVID-19 situation and my food production. My goal is to turn and plant a bed (raised beds, approx 36" x 8') each day, and top dress with the composted poultry litter from last fall.
Unfortunately I don't think there are seeds for toilet paper trees available :)
. HELLO JOANNA, from a fellow Wet Coaster, WELCOME ABOARD!Joanna Marie wrote:Great post and awesome poster! Can I borrow it for my Facebook page? I am a food security program coordinator in BC Canada and I am running a contest to get people growing gardens and this would be perfect!
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Dr. Bryant RedHawk wrote:hau Kola Nicole, In this case I would put down the paper sacks over a spreading of compost and duck bedding, then I would cut X's to plant the corn seeds through the sacks, lay on mulch leaving the seed holes uncovered so the seeds can come up through the paper X then you could mulch closer to the new corn plants.
This will give some good microbes the chance to establish under the sacks and hold moisture in place. I would not bother trying to dig the area, just where you want to plant the seeds.
Water the first few times with water then make a tea and use that, (to really boost the microbes use tea once a month and maybe one or two waterings with mushroom slurry.
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me wrote:I ended up mowing the grass as short as I could, and then put about 1 inch of compost and duck bedding over the area. If I had more, I would have added more. Then I put the sacks over everything, and it sat like that for a week due to hot weather and fussy kids. Today, my parents came over, and my mom helped me get the bed ready to go. I wanted to try a three sisters-type bed...which made cutting Xs kind of hard to fathom. So, we took off the sacks. For each "mound," we dug a circle of soil about a shovel head length down and flipped it over dug a circle of soil (pretty much stepped on the shovel over and over to make the outline of a circle, and then) flipped the circle over, so the grass was on the bottom, and the soil on top.
My son came and helped plant four seeds in each circle, and then we put the sacks back on to cover the areas between the circles, and put what woodchips and duck bedding we had left on top of the sacks to hold them down and help smother the grass. We'll add more mulch on the sacks as our ducks create more...and hopefully we'll get a new load of tree trimmings and we can use that, too!
Mike Haasl wrote:So what is the easiest way to get a garden going from grass? I'm thinking along the Victory Garden theme where it's possibly new gardeners and the goal is calories and likely annuals.
I did the tillage method where we tilled up a grassy pasture, laid out beds/paths and planted within a month. A downside was all the chunks of turf that the tiller slightly buried which then sprang back to life and needed to be removed. We probably hauled away 3 wheelbarrow loads of crescent shaped turf bits to the compost pile that first summer.
The potato method that Nicole does would work nicely if all they wanted to grow was potatoes. I'm assuming that trick won't work for very many other crops?
My notion is to lay out brown cardboard where the garden will be. Soak it down really well and add 2-4" deep rows of soil and wood chips on the cardboard. Soil rows about 2.5' wide, wood chips about 18". Then mulch the soil with grass clippings throughout the summer (never more than 1" thick). Seeds could be started in the soil and by the time their roots get to the cardboard they'll poke right through (I think?). For transplants you'd cut through the cardboard and plant the seedlings, possibly mounding up the soil or digging down into the dead turf a bit.
Any thoughts on my "notion"?
Any other ways to start a Victory Garden from turf (especially one focused on food for this year)?
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Mike Haasl wrote:So what is the easiest way to get a garden going from grass?
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