Pearl Sutton

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Chronic reader, creative dreamer, a LOT of hand skills to make things real, intense health issues that limit my activity, but not my creativity or dreams. Moved to southern Missouri with enough tools and junk to build a life that might work well with my health. One of god’s gigglers, I punctuate with smiley faces and exclamation points when I type, and smile and laugh a lot in real life. (Often at things no one else understands.) And I both curtsy at people (even when wearing grubby work clothes) and purr when hugged, both online and in real life. “Normal” is not a word that has ever been used for me.
Been organic gardening all my life, and bought 4 acres that I have designed from the ground up. Making it happen is being the most fun I have ever had in my life, the best 3D jigsaw puzzle ever! Reading Mollison’s Designer’s Manual was like coming home, ah, THERE I am! A reality where I can use all of my multifaceted talents and skills!
Dumpster diver, recycler, second hand store shopper, I tell people I am attracted to rust and lace. I have violated every warranty I have ever met, I’m a tool using animal, and I use my tools to modify everything in my world. And it only gets weirder...
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I added  this to the "Kids" and "homeschool"forums. I don't play games, or have children, so I'm fairly useless  :D If you want it added to any other forums, tell me, happy to help!
2 days ago
Cool! I haven't seen a setup like that,but it's interesting to me, I'm into low tech/low maintenance/low finances solar and wind generating. Thanks for the links! Welcome to Permies, an interesting first post!
3 days ago
My apologies for forgetting to reply, I was reading responses as they came in, but had no writing time.
I ended up keeping the ones I had gotten, 150 ish, and not getting any more. I put them with my (drum-roll please!) potting stuff to use as tree starter pots! Thank you Su Ba!!

So to satisfy curiosity, the dumpster in question is at the local recycle place. The guys say they came in one morning to all this junk, and it wasn't a type of plastic they could recycle, so it hit the trash. They have no idea where it came from, and we had a good debate on it all. Besides the thousand or more tubes, there were packaging clamshells, stacked tight and hard, several thousand of them, yellowed with age, very specific about what went in them (and we have no clue what it was.) There were lids that did NOT fit the tubes, and possibly the most mystifying, thousands of plastic things, some in a box labeled "home base" that were baseball base shaped, about 1.25 inches across, the "home base" ones were blue, there were thousands of white ones too. Parts for some toy, only thing I could think of for them is they had a round dent shaped like a worry stone. Weirdness. Where all this came from, and why it was tossed to recycle in backwoods Missouri, we'll never know.

Baseball bases:

Looking at that pic, these were slightly askew, they didn't fit together nicely like the real bases would.
I didn't have time or space or energy to deal with anything but the tubes, and just stuck with what I had already dragged home.

Thank you all SO much for the ideas (condoms, ow, not THAT soft!)  (habit-trails! I love that!) I think they are a bit too soft for concrete work, I may try some though. A bit short for a good tone on a digeridoo, and wouldn't melt well to make the bell (pvc pipe works lovely for that though!) They DO make good swords, but I think I should not be arming the neighbor boys with new weapons.
Lots of good ideas, and I appreciate them!

I curtsy nicely at you all!! Thank you for playing!!
4 days ago

Dan Boone wrote:Until you ruled out Osage Orange, I was going to suggest that possibility. It looks very like how mine look when mowed and regrowing rapidly. The appearance is much shrubbier than an undisturbed Osage Orang sapling.

Zero thorns. All the ones I have seen have thorns from a very early age. Possibly I haven't seen thornless ones?

That plant, once it came up, hasn't been mowed. The space, before it came up, was just grass and flowers.
4 days ago
Carla: Rule out this list...

I don't THINK it's Hemp Dogbane, I am fairly sure I recognize that one, as I have a bunch of it.
Still could be a milkweed, I have several types that I'm sure of, it's none of them.
I'd love if it's Tick Trefoil, but I doubt it.
Still possibly Amur Honeysuckle, but doesn't look like the others I have ID'd.

Those are most likely suspects at this point. Or a tree I'm clueless on. Which is quite a few of them.
4 days ago
I think it's probably a tree. And I can't prove it, but I think I have seen the same thing in ditches as I drive, until they cut the ditch. So something rampant and rowdy. And it IS right on a fenceline, so bird planted is quite likely.  Trees close that I can think of (that I'm sure it's not any of them) Maple, walnut, mulberry, ash, pecan, plum, apricot, (that whole family of stone fruits) sassafras, oak, cedar, locust, magnolia, dogwood. Shrubs and vines in the area that I'm sure it's not: Japanese honeysuckle, lilac, peony, any of the bulb flowers, nothing in the Allium family, nothing in the mint family, nothing in the Solanum family, pokeweed, joe pye weed, Japanese knotweed, buckbrush, none of the thorny vines or berries, wild rose, Autumn Olive, Osage Orange.

I don't THINK it's Hemp Dogbane, I am fairly sure I recognize that one, as I have a bunch of it.
Still could be a milkweed, I have several types that I'm sure of, it's none of them.
I'd love if it's Tick Trefoil, but I doubt it.
Still possibly Amur Honeysuckle, but doesn't look like the others I have ID'd.

If I were still in NM, not looking at the leaves, only the growth habit, I'd say Ailanthus, (it's not, totally wrong leaves) just that rowdy happy easy to spread type energy. What is rowdy and energetic like that around here that I'm missing?

4 days ago
It doesn't look like the other persimmons in the area, BUT if it is one, it's at a very different stage of growth than the others. It's happy, whatever it is, and I suspect at this point it would take serious work to remove it. I'll try to get a chunk to the Ag dept, sometimes the ones in that office have a clue, mostly it ends up needing to be asked of the guy in the other office.  Rattlesnake Master threw the local office, now that I know it, there is no mistaking it, and gooseberries at a certain stage of growth threw them too. Not real confident about their ID skills. They are better at what to spray stuff with than caring what it is :P


4 days ago
Update: Still growing! Has a brother by it now. Still no idea what it is, hasn't bloomed or anything. Still puzzled. :D

5 days ago
This is a little complex, I drew a pic to help visualize it. I have a natural ponding point I want to make into a pond. There is a good sized maple right there, it's roots would be in/under/part of the pond (tree is the big brown spot.) It's where the ground breaks from fairly level near my top elevation, to where the slope starts (maybe 12 degree slope, downhill to the north.) Problem winds are from the SW and N, SW being the way tornadoes come in, N being straight line high winds in winter. The greenhouse location is within reach of that tree if it falls SW to NE. I don't want the greenhouse splattered. I don't particularly want to cut the tree (although it's a definite option.)

If I put a pond right there (see second pic, dotted black line is new ground level, basically extending the level soil out around where I want a pond) (yes, good structure, probably won't fail, not relevant to this discussion about tree) will it strengthen or weaken the tree, more or less likely to fall? Tree has a slight natural lean to the West. I have a maple about 30 feet away due south it could be guy wired to (how?) and there is a tie down point in cement that used to have a carport on it, not sure how sturdy it is, that it could be guy wired to southeast of it. I'm thinking if it's wired, maybe it could be steered to pivot if it falls. The maple tree due south of it would be the best angle for that, but I don't know what that would do to either of them. Not sure what good tying it southeast would do, just an option.

So if it falls any direction except toward the greenhouse, I'm fine with it. (Although I guess it would trash the dam... hmm) Since tornado winds come from the SW, it's most likely to go toward the greenhouse.

What do I do? The more I write, the more I think the tree is getting removed, (or top pruned?) as even if I don't put a pond there, it's a greenhouse killer.

That's the best uphill pond point in the area, and I'll have a trackhoe and skidsteer out there that can build it easy.


5 days ago

Missouri Department of Agriculture wrote: The Missouri Department of Agriculture, in coordination with USDA Animal and Plant Inspection Service, has detected ramorum blight on rhododendron plants shipped to some retail nurseries in Missouri. The disease is more commonly known as Sudden Oak Death when it infects oak trees. The rhododendrons were shipped to Wal-Mart and Rural King stores throughout Missouri, as well as the Springfield Home Depot, Stark Bros. Nursery Garden Center and Fort Leonard Wood PX.  

...Shipment of these rhododendrons has been successfully traced back to Park Hills Plants in Oklahoma and may have originated from nurseries in Washington State and Canada.

Link to complete announcement

This announcement was aimed at Missouri, but casually mentions other states in the area. The list of plants affected by this fungus includes (but is not limited to) certain rhododendrons and lilacs. The fungus spreads and will kill off oaks, as well as other plants. Affected plants have damaged leaves, and need to be disposed of carefully (instructions in the link.)

If you bought plants this year, check them, you may have accidentally brought home a noxious fungus!

6 days ago