and then look for things you can grow that you don't grow.
William Bronson wrote: The cheapest calories generally available in the states come in a white powdered form.
White flour is supper cheap, as is "vegetable" oil, but just cutting food cost isn't what you are looking for.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think having land and skills to raise animals makes them the best choice for creating more food.
Low inputs will mean low out puts but zero cost, so if you can get 100 roosters for next to nothing and they all put on only a single pound worth of meat scrounging for themselves, then you have profited.
Perhaps the answer to your food costs is to plant corn, then get a nuisance hunting licence.
elle sagenev wrote:Let me ship you a few pigs. LOL
I follow a Youtube channel called Roots and Refuge and she discusses in one of her videos that she concentrated on her massive veggie garden first as it was what could produce the most calories for the least cost. I'm not sure if that's true for my climate or yours, she lives in Alabama so long growing season.
We eat a lot of dairy but I don't think milk is expensive enough to justify a dairy cow.
We've started making our own alcohol. I think that'll save us a lot in the long run. lol Now if only it was warm enough to grow agave for tequila!
Genevieve Higgs wrote:Usually transformative action requires imposing delayed gratification. On the bright side you can start small and make one change at a time. right now I'm working on "we don't eat food on the ferry, we bring it from home or buy it before getting on"
Eric Hanson wrote:Travis,
I had a good laugh when I read this post, but I think it is apt—nobody really likes them but they are kinda good for us (as a whole at least). They are a nuisance but they protect us.
Then I was thinking (joking, really) about a Permies organic condom. Would it be biodegradable? Made from vegetable matter? Maybe a hugelcondom (I have no idea what that would be, I just liked the sound/thought of it. I mean a condom made out of logs and woody debris sounds like a bad design for a condom). Perhaps a reusable condom (and believe it or not, these have existed!)? I wonder what other Permies/organic concepts could apply.
Anyways, this is mostly joke, but your analogy is great!
Eric Hanson wrote:...Permies organic condom. Would it be biodegradable? Made from vegetable matter? Maybe a hugelcondom (I have no idea what that would be, I just liked the sound/thought of it. I mean a condom made out of logs and woody debris sounds like a bad design for a condom). Perhaps a reusable condom (and believe it or not, these have existed!)? I wonder what other Permies/organic concepts could apply. Eric
Travis Johnson wrote:
I guess my question is…for this family of six, what are some practical things to raise that gets the most food for the cost of raising it?
Travis Johnson wrote:We took the Dave Ramsey course last winter, and it was very good. As a side note, and a nod to Elle, her and her husband are instructors for his course.
We struggled with it because Katie has not worked in 9 months, and I have not worked in 3.5 years, so it is hard to set a budget and live within those budgets when you have no regular income coming in. We wanted to complete steps 2-7 in one fell swoop by selling our home, but it never sold, so we finally gave up, and moved back into the house.
It seemed natural for me just to go back to work, but that too is falling flat. I MIGHT have a job as a Lineman/Tower Climber, but it will probably be the first of the year before it happens.
My career advisor through the Displaced Farmer's Program of the USDA is helping me out, but they got gobs of money wand want me to go in (3) different directions. Get a decent paying job, go to college, and finally look at getting the farm viable in a different way other than sheep farming. That is all okay, but those are (3) very different things so it is hard to do all of them, at least for me, at the same time.
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