In our area, the largest shed we'd be allowed would be 10ft by 10 ft without getting permits, but this was my reaction also. If I'm going to be working hard on building, I'd need to get a decent night's sleep, and camping was great fun for a week or two, but that was for holidaying, not working 10 hours/day!
John F Dean wrote: In hind sight, we would have been better off buying an 8x14 storage shed. It would have served better in both the short and long term.
Ben Skiba wrote: I think your strategy is good.I have started from scratch several times.Usually like your saying you start in a tent.You set up your outhouse/compost toilet.Then set up a kitchen area.In my experience it's good to have a shade.So I make a pole building to cook under.Winter comes faster then you think even though it's already summer.Build something you can use a woodstove in for the winter while you work slowly on your house house.So your cordwood shed might be good depending on how fast you can build.For showers in the winter you can stand in a tote and just wash with a rag.They also make propane instant hot water heaters.for water you our most likely going to have to haul water at first.Maybe you can set up a raincatchment on your outbuilding/shed.Then eventually get a well drilled.Be realistic you will need things from the outside world.hardly anyone lives from the land from scratch anymore and if they do it takes time to set up systems.Your list if you wanted it to could include tools you need/tools you have/tools you can borrow.Sounds like you have some experience off grid so I think you got it covered.Where is your land located and how far our you from a water source?Maybe you can tap into one secretly?Just adding my two cents.You got this.
I read about a guy who lived in a perfectly lovely 2-car garage. He got permission to live in the garage while building the large house he'd submitted plans for because when he submitted plans for a small, efficient house, he was told that it didn't meet the local requirements. So he built and outfitted the garage and added an attached greenhouse, turned the rest of the lot into a permaculture paradise, kept the neighbors happy by giving them surplus fruit/veg when he had it, and since in many areas, bylaws are only enforced if there's a complaint, there hadn't been an issue in the order of 20 years.
Kevin David wrote: I used to know a guy who lived in a garage he built while he worked on a rather large house about 20 years. I recently heard he’s still living in that funky smelling garage…it smelt funky 20 years ago.
Kaarina Kreus wrote:I live in Finland, a country with a long border with Russia.
I am thinking of building a root cellar where we could hunker if Rusdia attacks.
R Scott wrote:Mail is actually a big problem some places. I don’t need a building permit for a small off grid cabin, BUT I needed a septic permit to get a mailing address and will need a building permit if I want grid power. Even if only for an ag building or barn with no house on the property. Ag buildings don’t need permit, permits are tailored for houses only. It is a backhanded way to require zoning when the state has exempted agriculture buildings including worker’s housing at the state level
Water really depends on what you have to work with. Do you have a truck or trailer? How hard is it to travel your road? How far to get the water? How often do you go that way anyways?
My preferred budget method is a food grade IBC tote for home storage. It is by far the cheapest in gallons per dollar I can find. A second one to put in the back of the truck is convenient if you have to make a special trip for water. A transfer pump will move the water easy without buckets.
Can you drive a sand point well?
That sort of thing can be *very* locality dependent, so a careful check is important. Some places seem to have few rules, but my municipality is crazy strict about it. You may still get away with it if the neighbors don't complain, but again, where we live, some neighbors seem to have nothing to do but complain!
So I’m thinking I should be careful to check with officials to see if there is some time limit I have to finish this temporary shelter and apply for a building permit.
Jt Lamb wrote:...... *Must Have Buffers*, in every system!
John F Dean wrote:The first thing I did after I bought my property in MN was to have a well put in. It was the correct decision for me.