Brenda
Bloom where you are planted.
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I detect a little undertone of "whitey bashing"
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Brenda Groth wrote:I should limit the use of the property here in this area to only such things as hikinig, berry picking, mushroom hunting and meditation...it is so beautiful.
Idle dreamer
paul wheaton wrote:
Ken Peavey wrote:
Things that are non-husp
I want to emphasize that while I seek feedback on my ideas, the tiniest "I think ..." does a great deal to make it feel like we are collaborating, and, thus, inviting a lot of ideas, rather than setting in stone what is or is not in my head.
municipal waste and water treatment systems
A very good point. Anybody have any info on how poop and pee was managed here 403 ago? Well, pee probably was just put anywhere, but what about poop?
>>> native americans from what i understand would find the nearest off the trail spot and just squat/lean/etc and just go. in the summer you have plant material and in winter you get a cold wash with snow. also take into consideration how many people to the space there was. how many tribes were there in one of our current states counties? and how many people would be in each tribe on average? when you think about that then it makes sense that they didnt bring about a black plague of their own like the europeans did because they were more spread out, for one. you have people all piled on top of each other and dumping chamber pots out windows possibly on a passerby's head... i just get the image of the chicken trucks today. all the chickens packed into small area and levels of them pooping on each other.
with humanure then you are safely utilizing and dealing with the human waste matter. its mixed with other matter and composted and breaks down and feeds the soil. whereas current USA what do we do? "eww poop and pee *flush*" everything gets flushed to a giant holding tank. as i believe paul said once in a podcast "even fertilizer if you dump it all in one big pile is gonna be harmful".
strip malls and paved parking lots on farmland
I wonder if the overall population would be different. I suspect that cites would have fewer people than they do now, and rural areas would have more people per square mile than they do now.
>>> i think cities would be more like towns and people would have still more room then current USA towns. as most everyone i'm thinking would have at least some area for plants or a few chickens, etc.
smoke belching cars, in every driveway and massive road networks
I remember that the reason the amish didn't use electricity had to do with the pollution at the other end of the wire.
I would like to think that public transportation would be favored heavily. But ... there is a lot in this space that I am curious about.
>>> amish religion doesnt permit them to do many things because it takes away from their lives and their relationship with god. i think everyone could use a bit of a lesson in that.
though i am around tons of amish people and there are good and bad amish like anyone else. some of them do even less gardening or animal tending then townfolk. heck, alot are townfolk!
i'm not seeing how public transportation would work at all. other then wagon trains, groups of people on horseback. even for solar you need to have electric and plastics to make them and the process of making them wastes alot itself.
clearcutting
I would like to think that a mix of meadows and woodland would be encouraged. And sometimes the woodland gets too dominant and is cleared.
>>> dont forget that the native americans would set fire to the prairie occasionally at certian times because prairie grass isnt like most grass we plant now. the grass we have now pretty much grows like a tree does. but the prairie grass, the roots are *much* deeper and the main growing point is under the soil. and burning the prairie you put all the burnt grass matter to the soil. and the burning also kept the forests from taking over the prairie, which they didnt want because the buffalo lived off the prairie grasses.
also the firewood native americans used was mostly "sqaw wood". fallen branches and things that the women could easily gather.
26 ounce Porterhouse steaks
I would think there would be no objection to somebody eating this on the day of harvest - especially in lieu of preserving it.
lip gloss and nail polish
I confess that would be more of a utopia to me (mostly from my more political philosophies surrounding madison avenue and fashion magazines) but with roots in face paint 403 years ago ....
>>> i think there would certianly be a totally different standard of "beauty" and fashions. throughout time people all over the planet have always had fashions and i dont think that would stop even in husp.
McMansions'
I rather think that the lodge houses of the pacific northwest could turn out to be the most optimal living model.
Shenanigans of the sheep and wooly sort.. And many more.. https://www.instagram.com/girlwalkswithgoats/
Papa always says, "Don't go away angry... just go away."
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Granted, but as this is a product of your mind, is it not possible for us to pose questions and suppositions to shape our conception of it?
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
paul wheaton wrote:
Ken Peavey wrote:
Things that are non-husp
strip malls and paved parking lots on farmland
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Gilbert Fritz wrote:I know Paul's imaginary story is not the main point of this tread, but I though I would say . . .
That by 1608 the Natives were already dying off at a huge rate from diseases spread north from Spanish Mexico, and thus there land use and general culture had greatly changed. The mound builders of the Mississippi were probably already extinct, though early Spanish explorers recored seeing them. The plains Indians might have already started using horses to hunt the great herds of buffalo, which boomed in response to the destruction of the earlier more advanced civilizations.
Thus, there is much we do not know, having only seen the North-eastern tribes in their decline.
(If I am wrong in all this, correct me.)
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