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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Greywater and Willow Feeders.

In this Badge Bit you will use water from a dishpan to flush a toilet or water something.


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Here are some threads on the larger context of willow feeders and poop beasts:
 - Tree Bog vs Dry Outhouse
 - The First Willow Feeder
 - Willow Feeder #3 - Willow Wonka
 - Willow Bank
 - Poop Beasts



To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - use water from a dishpan
     - to flush a toilet, or to water something outside
     - at least three gallons
     - verify high quality biodegradable dish soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - a picture of the dishpan with water
 - a picture of the at least 3 gallons of water being used to flush a toilet or water something
 - a picture and link to the verifiable biodegradeable dish soap
 - OR a 2-minute video of you doing the above and a link to the verifiable biodegradeable dish soap
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- a picture of the dishpan with water


- a picture of the at least 3 gallons of water being used to flush a toilet or water something


- a picture and link to the verifiable biodegradeable dish soap

https://ireadlabelsforyou.com/ecos-dishwashing-liquid-safe-or-toxic/
Staff note (paul wheaton) :

I need the link to verify that the soap is biodegradable!

 
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The three gallons of water came from multiple dish pans being added to the buckets in this picture. I added one more dishpan to the bucket on the left to fill the left bucket.



I used the full left bucket to flush this toilet.



The soap that was used in ECOS PRO Dishmate Manual Dish Liquid

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"readily biodegradable". I certify this BB is complete.

 
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Hey, will this particular dish soap pass the test?

It says 'biodegradable cleaning ingredients," but I'm no chemist.

https://www.palmolive.com/en-us/products/dish-washing-liquid/pure-clear

(edit after the fact, no.)
 
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I bought the ecos soap so I can do the greywater BB's:
https://www.ecos.com/product/dish-wash/dishmate-dish-soap/free-clear/


Sink #1:



4 cups at a time was not going to last long

green can made it go faster

Water mostly put just outside the kitchen


This bowl is a bit over a gallon when full




More bowls, no the dishrag was not dumped




A few more, so it's waaaay more than 3 gallons


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I certify this BB complete!

 
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I am confused why at least 3 gallons of greywater to flush toilet. Most times I can flush with just a gallon or so, if I lift the bucket high enough and dump it quick enough. Since we have to be hooked up to a septic system and there is only one bathroom, shower water is saved and used for the toilet and watering plants and compost and trees, etc. Even in winter in the Northeast the snow gets watered too. Nutrients are nutrients no matter the season. Even in storms and power outages lasting for days a bucket of pee can be used for flushing the toilet.
 
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I would certify 3 one gallon flushes. I don't think the intent is to flush the toilet but to reuse 3 gallons of greywater.
 
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Here's pics from me using water from doing dishes and rinsing vegetables to water plants in the yard. The jug holds about 2 gallons, and I've used it more than once. It's a cat litter jug that's been repurposed as a watering can.

The soap is Dr. Bronner's castile soap. Says 100% biodegradable on the bottle, and I've seen it on multiple grey-water safe lists.
Plant Friendly Soaps
Guide to Greywater Safe Shampoo

I bought this plumber's tool way back so I could easily start syphons without using my mouth. Comes in handy if I forget to wash the dishes in a portable container.
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Grey water from sink
Grey water from sink
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Biodegradable soap
Biodegradable soap
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More water from sink
More water from sink
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Using siphon - sink end
Using siphon - sink end
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Using syphon - bucket end
Using syphon - bucket end
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Watering tree
Watering tree
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I certify this BB complete along with your spiffy new air badge!

 
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I'm wondering if used bath water would count for this badge. I tend to bail it out with a 5 gallon bucket.
Either way, I used my dishwater. I use Ecos brand dish detergent, website: https://www.ecos.com/faq/?highlight=faq

I saved a few days' pictures.


Here's draining the sink.  


Predump 1


Postdump 1


Predump 2


Postdump 2


Predump 3


Postdump 3
Staff note :

Can you please show: 1) Your soap at home that matches the link you posted. 2) Something that shows the volume of the blue container is each at least one gallon.

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Ah, I first posted the detergent in the dish wash BB.



The blue bowl is more like a half gallon. I'll attach more l took with the other container.
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I started making photos for this BB. But it will take some time before I'll have used 3 gallons of dishpan water to water plants! I measured the water I used for washing the dishes once and made a photo of the measuring, showing 1 pint. In the dishpan is about 4 pints of dishwashing water. I searched the internet to know how many pints in a gallon, it says 8. So I need to do 6 times washing the dishes in total for this BB. Making photos every time probably isn't necessary ... is it?
 
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Hi Inge, Thanks for asking. I think that taking the photos each time is necessary, to show the full volume has been achieved.

I had to do something similar for my Ruth Stout Composting. So I made a separate thread with all my photos, and then posted a link to that thread in the BB thread.

Here's the thread with all my photos: https://permies.com/t/147818/Ash-Ruth-Stout-Composting-BB
Here's my post in the BB thread: https://permies.com/p/1154457
 
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Here are my photos for the dishpan water. We use ecoleaf washing up liquid which is septic tank safe. The washing up bowl is 6l, so 3 were needed to get over 3 gallons of water. I can see this being really useful when we have dry periods as we don't have much storage for rainwater.

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Is that wash up liquid really biodegradable? It says septic safe and to call poison control if you ingest it...

 
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It took me almost a week, but I did it! Made photos when washing the dishes, measuring the used water and putting it in the waterer and then a photo after I watered 'something' with it.

To start with: the biodegradable dish soap:

Link: https://www.ecover.com/  

First day:

Washing the dishes

Measuring the used water. This is 1 pint. Four of these go in my dishpan. So that's half a gallon. That's why I have to do it during 6 days.

Watered some plants, using the dish-water.

Second day:
To make it shorter I don't show 'washing the dishes' anymore. If you want to see it: it's in my 'secret' personal thread.

Dishpan with water, 1 of the 4 pints in the measuring can.

Watered some plants

Third day:

Dishpan with water etc.

Watered some plants

Fourth day:

Dishpan, water, etc.

Watered some plants

Fifth day:

Dishpan, water, etc.

Watered some plants

Sixth day:

Dishpan, water, etc.

Watered some plants

It happened to be the right time for doing this. No rain at all during those days. I'll go on until there's rain again ...

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