Christine Wolf wrote:On 2nd thought, i just read they take 3 years to get half a pound. i think the cats would have a better growth rate even in idaho water
we have whitefish in maine and they need very cold clean water to survive. also very sensitive to pollution. i don't think they could survive in a pond. they only thrive in clean, cold deep lakes around here. bluegills,crappie and brown trout might be better options as they can take crowding and warmer water in the summer. i still think catfish fed a high quatity pellet would be your best choice. those fish can live in a muddy ditch and thrive!
Alice Tagloff wrote:None of the state inspected hatcheries are breeding buffalo fish.
These are the fish the state run hatcheries are breeding.
Is the list of all the official hatcheries, tho there are commercial ones, and I'm having trouble with my Google-fu on those just yet.
Is the list of the official fish identifications.
However, I think you missed the part that I mentioned at the end of my last post.
Where you buy a liscense from fish and game, and you -catch your own stock-. http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/licenses/fishLiveTransport.pdf
That's right, you go out with whatever equipment they have approved, and -live catch- whatever local species that your pond is approved for, and you can then move them into your pond for raising & breeding. The permit form itself doesn't give an option for Buffalo fish(only bass, bluegill, catfish, crappie), so you'll need to contact your local fishery manager if there are other fish found in your area that you want to stock your pond with.
To help my Google-fu, Buffalo Fish appears to be a 'common' name for the fish, what's the 'official' name of the fish your looking for? Do you mean the Ictiobus /Bigmouth Buffalo Carp? If so, none of the hatcheries are breeding it because it's a native, and naturally prolific fish. If that's actually the case, then you'll have to resort to the live catch/transport option if you can get the inspector to approve your pond for the fish.
Looking at the fish the state is breeding in their hatcheries, I would recommend either of the Whitefish. Most other fish breeds requires moving water, whitefish lay randomly, wherever it seems. A man-made pond should be completely landlocked, and it may be difficult to impossible for a homegrower to get their fish to breed like that. While the Whitefish doesn't get very big, they're not territorial, your pond could be teaming with them. Size doesn't quiet make as much a difference as number, if what your after is just the meat. Whitefish can also be easily bottled for long term storage, or smoked and dried like caplin(A local saltwater favourite). They're basically a slimmer North American equivalent of tilapia(...that's if the whitefish is the same whitefish I'm thinking they are.) and they're entirely catchable via ice-fishing, unlike most other fish that are difficult to catch via ice-fishing.
d think if you fed them a well balanced diet you could accomplish much faster growth than you would have in the wild. google farming catfish and theres all kinds of info on it. southerners been doing this for a long time. its big business there. you're right. cats lay in the mud to conserve energy in the winter but they still will feed occasionally. I've caught them ice fishing. they are delicious too!
Kyrt Ryder wrote:I am starting to think Steve B. might be right.
Our best bet might be the Channel Cat route, they'll just take longer to grow out. [One nice thing about fish is that they consume extremely little energy when they go dormant in cold weather, they just downgrade their metabolism and drift along.]
While I have nothing against smaller fish, I certainly don't want to screw with something that would take 3-5 per plate. At that rate I might as well just raise minnows and process them the way I would carp.
Otherwise I want a fish at least large enough for one fish per plate.
steve bossie wrote:southerners been doing this for a long time. its big business there. you're right. cats lay in the mud to conserve energy in the winter but they still will feed occasionally. I've caught them ice fishing.
maybe try a mix of brown trout w/ the cats. browns are big eaters and remain active all winter. they are also more pollution and heat tolerant in the summer than other trout species. stock a bunch of fathead minnows as a supplemental food source for them and you're golden! this way you don't put all your eggs in one basket per se
Christine Wolf wrote:Steve, yes feeding cats more makes them grow more, uless there not taking as much food becaus its cold. I may go with cats, not sure yet. cant find cool water farm growth rates. most of the growth rates ive beet looking up was for farm fish not wild. In the southish its 14" in 3 years for channal cats.