Emerson: Aren't the staph bacteria killed at the temperatures of the dishwasher (dishwasher machine) not the dishwasher washing by hand?
South Carolina wrote:
They claim some sort of fungus in most dishwashers.
Guys in the restaurant business (olden days before mechanical dishwashers) the dishwasher washed all the dishes by hand. However, to keep down the germs they had a three tub system. The first tub was the wash water. The second tub contained a solution of bleach and warm water. The third tub was for the final rinse of the dishes.
I'm sure there wasn't much concern over water wastage however, it did get the dishes clean and sanitized. So one could utilize a similar solution if one was concerned about sanitation using the hand wash method. Water consumption could be held to a minimum. A third tub could contain the bleach water. Then allowing the dishes to air dry would kill off many of those bad germs.
Just a thought.....
BTW I'll stick with my old dishwasher thank you.
Dave Bennett wrote:
180 degree water in the final rinse sink. I washed dishes in my youth at a restaurant that did not have a dish machine. I did flush the flatware in a pot of boiling water and everything was air dried completely before being stacked and put back in service. I worked as a commercial appliance service tech from 89-99 and repaired hundreds of commercial dish machines. Even though the final rinse water from the booster heater was maintained at 180. It is my opinion that in a commercial environment, dishes washed by hand correctly are much cleaner than those washed in a machine unless they are rinsed thoroughly before they are washed. That practice is very wasteful of water. In the home such sanitation is overkill because if the water you are rinsing with isn't clean enough to rinse off the soap product then it isn't clean enough to drink. I use what I consider to be a minimum amount of water to wash dishes. I rinse them twice. Once in a 13 quart stainless steel bowl and then a final rinse with a spray of water because the rinse water does have a tiny bit of soap in it. Just a thought.....home dishwashers do make great smokers.
Brice Moss wrote:
funny Paul I watched your video on life hacker, and when it was done the thing cues up a 30 second commercial telling us that the average person uses 5 gallons of water a minute to hand wash
From a sustainability standpoint: washing a ceramic coffee mug in hot water uses more embodied energy than a single use paper cup.
As for germs - not a problem, all this time and I've never had a germ related issue. I also fall into the camp that believes in mild exposure offers long term resilience. I am more concerned about soap residue, rather err on the side of germs than soap/chemical residue, but that's just me.
Seems more a personal choice than a technical 'mine is better than yours' method.
paul wheaton wrote:
washing dishes by hand is almost always a better choice.
Dave Bennett wrote:
I too am a plate licker although my full beard is getting quite long which has made it a tricky job. LOL.