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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and her spiderlings, the next generation!

 
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She (a green lynx spider, peucetia viridans) has captured a grasshopper on my seed grown hazelnut...good girl!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peucetia_viridans
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You’ve got to love the extra helpers on the homestead! I hope that this beneficial spider can mate and reproduce on your land do you can have a healthy community get established!
 
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With friends like that, you almost *need* enemies - to keep her well fed!
 
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Four grasshoppers in waiting this morning...she is lurking in the upper right leaf.
There have been a lot of young grasshoppers this year and other than our cats she is the first preditor I've noticed.

Frank, me too!
I love seeing how things play out among the wildlife...I didn't always but now I try to wait for the natural preditor to show up rather than pick, squish or drown them...EXCEPT for blister beetles and japanese beetles.

Jay, I' m interested why so many grasshoppers in such close proximity today...Steve thinks they might be already stunned, like breakfast,lunch, dinner and a snack?
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Now what?
She is either building a three story home for a bit of shade or maybe bug catchers?
Time to lay eggs?

The wikipedia article says they do have some venom but nothing deadly and that they can spit up to a foot so I'm not getting in too close
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From the wikipedia article link in my first post...

   The female constructs one to five 2-centimeter (0.8 in) egg sacs in September and October, each containing 25 to 600 bright orange eggs, which she guards, usually hanging upside down from a sac and attacking everything that comes near. Remarkably, one of her means of defense is to squirt (spit) venom from her chelicerae, sometimes for a distance of about a foot (300 mm).[2] The eggs hatch after about two weeks, and after another two weeks fully functional spiderlings emerge from the sac. They pass through eight instars to reach maturity.

The green lynx spider very seldom bites humans, and when it does, its venomous bite, though painful, is not deadly

The species is primarily of interest for its usefulness in agricultural pest management, for example in cotton fields. The spiders have been observed to hunt several moth species and their larvae, including some of the most important crop pests, such as the bollworm moth (Helicoverpa zea), the cotton leafworm moth (Alabama agrillacea), and the cabbage looper moth (Trichoplusia ni). However, they also prey on beneficial insects, such as honey bees.

 
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Yesterday no silk...

Today it looks like the strands are shaping the leaves, pulling them into a more sheltered shape?
She has managed to shade herself from the mid day sun.

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I thought she was gone this morning but she had moved to the elderberry branch that hangs out over the hazelnuts...seemed more active so maybe getting ready for an egg case?
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Back in her regular place the last couple days with her circle of 'friends'

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Does she attract her food somehow?
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The webs she distributes are "contact webs"
Any prey touching one ore more webs sends a signal to her feet.
So she will be alerted and know the direction where the prey landed as even the weight/size of the prey.
 
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Well, overnight she built an egg case and has slimmed down considerably
My photos are not so good cropped but I keep remembering that she spits venom to protect her egg case and just couldn't bring myself to get any closer...maybe you can see the shapes well enough in one of these photos?
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You're going to be a Grandma, Judith! Congratulations! Please tell her good luck from me!

Have you looked up how long it is likely to be before they hatch?

What do the babies eat, and do you have enough of that around that some will stay in your garden?
 
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Jay Angler wrote:You're going to be a Grandma, Judith! Congratulations! Please tell her good luck from me!

Have you looked up how long it is likely to be before they hatch?

What do the babies eat, and do you have enough of that around that some will stay in your garden?


Haha! Yes!
Permies is the only place I can post spider photos...not many folks appreciate them elsewhere...
I think we will still have plenty of grasshoppers to feed lots of spiders into the fall...maybe first frost.  Then I'm not so sure? Crickets maybe?  I'm hoping they will allow me to grow cole crops but I don't have anything in the ground...apparently they like cabbage moths.
Here's what wikipedia says about hatching...

 The eggs hatch after about two weeks, and after another two weeks fully functional spiderlings emerge from the sac. They pass through eight instars to reach maturity.

 
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Please mark your calendar for 4 weeks! Seeing a multitude of micro-spiders all emerging in a clump is a beautiful sight* and it would be great if you could get pictures!

* yeah, yeah, only on permies would people describe that as beautiful - but it is! It's a miracle of nature, and totally worth celebrating! Here on Permies, we understand that being a "grandma" to spiders is an honor!
 
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She moved to a different branch and is settled on top more visible now.
I didn't expect her to move especially to a more exposed spot...the egg case looks lighter colored like she's covered it in more web...there are cool little pointy things on top where I think the previous attachments were.  When I first saw her this morning under the leaf, I watched her closing the opening of the egg case but didn't get a photo.
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For reasons unknown to us, she has positioned herself spitting distance to the path we use often.
So, we are considering moving it...the path, not the spider
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I don't know anything about spiders and am finding this interesting so bear with me  It's one of many joys of growing older with more time of my own to consider things.

So, why do you suppose she moves the egg case so often?  Same leaf now...tucked in the fold of her leaf it looks like a safe place but she seems to move it to the sun or at least out in the open during the day.  For warmth? Or is it actually attached by web to her and it goes where she goes for protection?  Then she has to reattach it to the leaf?

And more and more she seems to attract grasshoppers...not just hunt them.  The one in the photos below slowly crawled up to within a quarter inch of one of her legs and I waited and waited for her to catch it but no one moved...
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She is one restless spider...moving that egg case all around the leaf for no apparent reason.
This is one of several configurations already today.

We are easily entertained in case that's not obvious
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Is it like chicken eggs which the mom needs to rotate so the chick develops properly and doesn't get stuck?
 
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Jay Angler wrote:Is it like chicken eggs which the mom needs to rotate so the chick develops properly and doesn't get stuck?



I wonder?
It sure seems like she's moving it deliberately for whatever reason..maybe warmth also?

If I didn't have limited data I would probably be searching the web.
Library tomorrow so will look for a book.

I wonder just how many young ones we're expecting
 
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For a confessed arachnophobe i have to say this thread is astonishingly awesome. I'm so excited!!!

I decided to do a little sleuthing for you and found just some basic info online


Yes, there is some information specifically about egg sac rotation in green lynx spiders. For example, a study published in the journal Arachnology in 2010 found that green lynx spiders rotate their egg sacs at a rate of about 12 times per hour. The study also found that the spiders tend to rotate their egg sacs more frequently at higher temperatures.

Another study, published in the journal Journal of Arachnology in 2013, found that green lynx spiders rotate their egg sacs in a clockwise direction. The study also found that the spiders rotate their egg sacs more frequently when there is a predator present.

Scientists believe that green lynx spiders rotate their egg sacs for a variety of reasons, including:

To prevent mold and mildew growth.
To protect the eggs from predators.
To regulate temperature and humidity.
To distribute the eggs evenly.
To communicate with the spiderlings inside.
However, more research is needed to fully understand why green lynx spiders rotate their egg sacs and the specific benefits that this behavior provides.

It is interesting to note that green lynx spiders are one of the few spider species that do not build webs to catch their prey. Instead, they are ambush predators that stalk and pounce on their prey. This unique hunting strategy may have contributed to the evolution of egg sac rotation in green lynx spiders, as it allows them to protect their eggs from predators while they are out hunting.

Further reading:
Egg sac rotation in the green lynx spider Oxyopes salticus: A study published in the journal Arachnology in 2010.
The effect of predation risk on egg sac rotation in the green lynx spider Oxyopes salticus: A study published in the journal Journal of Arachnology in 2013.
The Biology of Spiders by Rainer Foelix (2011)
Invertebrate Medicine by Gregory A. Lewbart (2017)

Judith, if you have anything you want me to look up specifically, let me know. I research for a living, I have a resident biologist here, and I have more data available than I know what to do with.
 
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ah, and the answer to the BIG QUESTION:

The number of spiderlings that emerge from a green lynx spider egg sac varies depending on the species, but it is typically around 200. The mother green lynx spider is a dedicated mother and will guard her egg sac and spiderlings until they are old enough to fend for themselves.

The mother green lynx spider will typically stay with her egg sac for about 2-3 weeks after the spiderlings have emerged. She will protect them from predators and help them to learn how to hunt and survive. Once the spiderlings are old enough, they will disperse and start their own lives.

Here are some of the ways that the mother green lynx spider protects her egg sac and spiderlings:

She will wrap them in a protective silk cocoon.
She will guard them aggressively, chasing away any predators.
She will help them to emerge from the egg sac and teach them how to hunt and survive.
The mother green lynx spider is an example of a spider that exhibits maternal care. This is a relatively rare behavior in spiders, but it is seen in a few different families, including the lynx spiders. Maternal care is thought to have evolved in spiders as a way to increase the survival rate of their offspring.

By protecting her egg sac and spiderlings, the mother green lynx spider helps to ensure that the next generation of green lynx spiders can thrive.
 
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Teresa this is wonderful!
Will read more thoroughly when I'm back home.

So cool to have her behavior explained and to anticipate 200!!! New arrivals...I feel like I better get busy planting something that will attract things they like  
 
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Judith Browning wrote:So cool to have her behavior explained and to anticipate 200!!! New arrivals...I feel like I better get busy planting something that will attract things they like  

Will they eat mosquitos and those dreaded deer ticks? Having 200 voracious guards on duty against those would be pretty awesome.

@ Tereza: did your reading suggest anything about their favorite snacks?
 
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"Flies
Bees
Wasps
Ants
Grasshoppers
Beetles
Butterflies
Moths
Spiders"

Green lynx spiders are not known to specifically target ticks, but they will eat them if they come across them. Ticks are relatively slow-moving creatures, which makes them easy prey for green lynx spiders.

tips:
Plant a variety of flowers and shrubs. Green lynx spiders are attracted to colorful flowers and shrubs because they provide a good habitat for their prey.
Keep your yard clean and free of debris; they like to live in open areas where they can easily see their prey.
Provide a water source.
 
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And a few more pictures...
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I've edited the title to include other lynx spiders as they share similar behaviors.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_spider
"Except when defending egg purses, many tend to flee rapidly when approached by predators or large creatures such as humans. They tend not to be very aggressive towards other members of their own species, and sometimes meet casually in small groups. Possibly as an extreme example, at least one member of the genus Tapinillus is remarkable as being one of the few social spiders, living in colonies with communal feeding, cooperative brood care, and generational overlap. Peucetia viridans is unusual among spiders in that females defending their egg purses will spray or "spit" venom at intruders, including humans."

green linx spider
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peucetia_viridans

striped lynx spider
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyopes_salticus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyopes_lineatus



 
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Tomorrow will be two weeks from when she made the egg case.
According to wikipedia...

The eggs hatch after about two weeks, and after another two weeks fully functional spiderlings emerge from the sac. They pass through eight instars to reach maturity.


Coincidently or not, yesterday she moved from the young hazelnut she's been on all along to a high point at a less protected end of the bed...and she's still there this afternoon.
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Wow. They're beautiful little creatures.  Their camoflage works so well against the green leaf.  You'd only notice them if they were moving.
 
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I'm so excited! I've put this thread on watch so I don't miss the babies!
How big is the mummy spider? I'm trying to guess by the size of the hazel leaf, but that can also vary so much.
 
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i also keep thinking OMG THE BABIES ARE HERE!!!
come on, babies!
 
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Apparently the eggs hatch within the case at two weeks which is today!
But the little ones don't emerge from the case for another two weeks...so october 12 is the day.
Give or take a day or so?

Her body is almost an inch long and legs a bit longer than an inch I think?
Rough guesses because we are keeping our distance due to the spitting thing
 
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Maybe there are a number of tiny ones hatched out in this egg case today....picture is just a few minutes ago.

Two more weeks to emerge...and then we're almost up to possible early frosts so I guess they hibernate?
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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
 
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She didn't even flnch when I showed her off to several folks at our potluck yesterday.

Not sure who's poop is on the leaf above her?
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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
 
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My photos are probably becoming repetative
but I'm using this thread for my record keeping...

A week from tomorrow is her due date if what I read is accurate.
We are due for rain over the next few days then drops to forty at night.
And then we sometimes have frosts by mid october...I wonder if they'll hibernate under the porch?

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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
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green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
green lynx spider, peucetia viridans and egg case
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Yesterday, after thursday's rain...
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New position, mid air supported by a little silk...I thought I saw babies but I think tufts of egg case?

Must have something to do with the spiderlings emerging?
It's breezy so hard to get a clear photo.
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