Cindy Ruprecht wrote:Wow, super helpful, Thank you! Does anyone know about outhouse code in eastern WA? Are they legal?
Thanks Miguel! Good luck! I haven't tried to get mine permitted lately. The full rules for making proprietary compost toilets, for example to sell a bunch to people, is ANSI/NSF 41. I think the requirement to consider excrement storage capacity is common sense, I can only conveniently maintain a thermophilic compost during spring, so I store my compostable stuff in plastic stock tanks until spring then mix it with weeds in one pile that I turn when I get to it.
Miguel Solis wrote:Thanks!
Matthew McCorkle wrote:Hi Tony! Thanks for the info!
Did they mention anything or do you remember filing out a Product Development Permit (PDP) when you applied for your initial permit?
I'm just outside of Bellingham, WA, working with the county to permit a few composting toilets on our property and they have asked us to fill out one of these.
Thanks John, I was too wordy so lovable loo, a more catchy phrase got a more boring sanitation paper hyperlink: http://humanurehandbook.com/downloads/humanure_sanitation_paper.pdf
John Dorst wrote:maybe a system of bucket pick up with someone who does
Josh JohnsonKp wrote:They of course gave me a list of their approved mfgrs like Sunmar and Clivus Multrum but I'm wondering what other manufacturers would fall into this Public Domain category?
Thanks for any help/advice in advance!
Josh JohnsonKp wrote:Yes they're now rather strict about composting toilets(along with everything else) in washington. I don't know the history back to the 70s but they were only fairly recently allowed from a permitting standpoint (in the last 10 years??), I think a lot of counties are reluctant to allow them at all and make you jump through a lot of hoops (and expense) to put one in legally. It seems puget sound bordering counties are the most difficult.
Amber Bruce wrote:...Do you think that the public domain composting toilet rule would apply to something like Wendy Howard's vermicomposting flush toilet?
John Dorst wrote:Just wondering why Lovable Loo's are not suggestions as you can have them inside with no problem or smell. Goes into buckets you seal & then you compost it. Look at website, you need two bins & hay/straw, one bin you fill & leave for a year & then safe to put on gardens. I am going to build one soon out by back shed, I know of a person who believes in sustainability & has had one for over 8 years & works great. Easy to make.
Just google Lovable Loo for website as I do not have handy...
Kam Botteron wrote:Late to the game for this post, but has anybody worked out the grey water requirements? We were told that Snohomish county Wa State considers it black water, and you have to have the same requirements as a septic system. I was hoping they would allow a modified low use drain field of some kind. If so, then it negates any benefit other than composting itself. On our our property a septic system has to be a very expensive double mound system.
Miguel Solis wrote:Thanks so much for the thorough post! It was a great place to start my composting toilet legal rabbit hole. I went ahead and read through all of the RS&G. It looks like to me (for the record, someone with no legal background) that the classic Jenkins composting method (in regular three-bin composter) would not be permitted since it's open-air and isn't sealed against disease vectors, but the Omick barrel-in-the-ground system would. I didn't find any leads for what rules, if any, regulate an 'excrement storage unit'... If your system gets permitted, please let me know!
Josh JohnsonKp wrote:Hello all, I'm new here but this thread came up in my search about using composting toilets in WA. I did confirm with my local county health dept (Pierce county) that public domain toilets are allowed but I'm having trouble determining who actually make such a beast. They of course gave me a list of their approved mfgrs like Sunmar and Clivus Multrum but I'm wondering what other manufacturers would fall into this Public Domain category?
Thanks for any help/advice in advance!