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Summary
Paul Wheaton and
Jocelyn Campbell talk about how
permies.com got started. Paul shares about his
lawn care article and needing help managing his emails. He then talks about the difference between making nature "your personal bitch" and working with nature. Aligned with nature, you can do 100 times more. He tells how maybe 10,000 years ago,
the Sahara used to be a lush jungle until folks chopped down
trees to start agriculture. Paul sees permaculture as a direction rather than a specific something. He also wants to emphasize how to be good rather than pointing out what is bad. He and Jocelyn share about taking a
permaculture design course (PDC). Paul talks about
Sepp Holzer, and the PDC
experience. He compares the typical garden to
Sepp Holzer's approach. He does nothing but harvest, and gives an example of
polyculture: there is an exchange of nutrients and
water between a
pea plant and a tap-rooted oak tree, especially with the help of undisturbed soil components such as mycelium. With tilling, you release 30% of the organic matter into the atmosphere. He mentions
Helen Atthowe‘s knowledge of soil. The value of animals in the system, and ponds.
Sepp doesn't feed his fish. He has entered into alignment with the ecosystem, and they always have food. Paul's not a huge fan of
aquaponics because they are reliant on humans.
Sepp Holzer lives in the Austrian Alps, and yet he grows citrus. Paul talks about farming on a mountainside as opposed to a valley. Paul and Jocelyn wrap up the podcast saying listeners can make podcast topic requests or ask questions
podcast topic requests or ask questions, and help by participating in the
tinkering forum and
navigating Reddit. Lastly, they share about
Masanobu Fukuoka and "do-nothing farming."
Resources
The Rebel Farmer by Sepp Holzer
Amazon.com
Amazon.ca
Green-shopping.co.uk
Sepp Holzer's Permaculture
Amazon.com
Amazon.ca
Green-shopping.co.uk
Sepp Holzer's Permakultur DVD
Amazon.com
Green-shopping.co.uk
Relevant Links
Sepp Holzer's website
Paul's article on Sepp Holzer
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