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Paul, Katie, Mark, Opalyn, and Kyle return to talking about Sepp Holzer’s Desert or Paradise, although this part is mostly on the last few events they had, and how damn hot it is.

Regarding the high temperatures, Katie wasn’t bothered seeing as she is from Hawaii, but everyone else was suffering in it (at time of recording it was 104F outside Paul’s place).  This led to some action being taken to mitigate the heat, or rather jump in the nearest river whenever possible and get Paul to deliver juice popsicles.  For next year, there’s plans to employ a Mister or Miss mister, provide bandanas, and swap the popsicles for slush puppies.  In a more positive note – the Cooper Cabin proved to be great at keeping the heat out with a less than 4 degree climb on a hot day with around 10 people working to stuff the walls with cob.  

A rather salty sounding somebody claimed that the bootcamp sucked because it expected 40 hours of work a week as opposed to WWOOF (Willing Workers on Organic Farms) that only requires 20.  This irked Paul, so he went off and checked several WWOOF sites and found that most of them required 30-40 hours, with less than 30 being rare.  On top of this, a lot of the time WWOOF farmers just get people in to harvest crops that they then sell at a profit and then send the WWOOFers down the road.  In contrast, bootcamp has you work for the benefit of other boots and bootcamp rather than Paul’s pocket.

Paul’s looking for someone to make YouTube videos and a movie of the events and all around stuff on the land and is willing to pay for them.  Current numbers are $3000 for each movie and $1-200 for YouTube videos that’ll ideally come out every other day.  See the relevant threads section below for more details.

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mitigating heat during the PTJ and SKIP events

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