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paul wheaton
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April 28, 2010, 11:36:03 AM

Maybe somebody more knowledgeable than I can answer this.

My impression is that somewhere there is official content that is covered at every PDC (permaculture design course).

It seems that the old norm was a 14 day intensive course. 

Now I see a lot of PDC's where it is one weekend a month for seven months. 

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Toby Hemenway
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April 28, 2010, 02:26:20 PM

Originally, Mollison prepared a handbook that covered what was supposed to be included in a PDC. a copy is at
http://www.permaculture.org/nm/images/uploads/PDC_cert_book_.pdf

Later he said that "Permaculture: A Designers' Manual" superseded this and constituted the curriculum; that a course was supposed to cover all chapter headings of the book. To my knowledge, Bill never wrote an easily understood list of what topics were to be covered, but the first couple of generations of teachers all covered the same topics that he did.

Bill's first PDCs were 3 weeks long, but so few people could afford 3 weeks that he shortened it to two. The course is supposed to be a minimum of 72 hours instruction, but all the good ones are 90+ hours or more. I've dropped in on a couple of 10-day courses, offered one once under pressure from a venue, and have met students who have taken them (you can cram 72 hours into 10 days, in theory) and they were not good courses and produced students who lacked a good understanding. Don't take one; don't offer one. So 12-14 days seems the minimum.

There are many formats: 2-week residential, two 1-week courses, one day a month for a year, and 6 or 7 weekends. The 2-week residential is superb for building a temporary community and is a full immersion that people treasure for the rest of their lives, but I've come to prefer the 6-weekend format because it can be given to the residents of a city or region so that they all get to know each other, and a permaculture community that is permanent results that can have a deep influence on a city or area. And the time between classes allows for extra study, socializing, and lets the material really sink in.

I have an FAQ on the course at
http://www.patternliteracy.com/designcoursefaq.html
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9anda1f
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April 28, 2010, 02:44:07 PM


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The 2-week residential is superb for building a temporary community and is a full immersion that people treasure for the rest of their lives, ...

What Toby said   grin

Both Darren and Geoff also stated that the original course was three weeks, but shortened to two ... which is why it's called an "Intensive".  Our days mostly went 10 hours+ with impromptu discussion lasting well into the evenings.  I chose to take the evenings to read the day's Design Manual chapter ... which is the ONLY way I'd ever have read that book cover to cover!   

It really was intense, full-immersion ... and as Toby said, I treasure it!  Really life-changing stuff;  I highly recommend doing everything in your power to take a PDC (or two)  wink
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Bill Kearns
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May 24, 2010, 02:06:36 PM

On the Tagari site, I see they're now selling the complete PDC lectures on 13 DVDs, given by Mollison and Geoff Lawton.   It costs about 380 AUD (~$315) plus shipping.
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Emerson White
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May 24, 2010, 10:50:52 PM

What do you call yourself when you have a certificate? A Certified Permaculture designer?
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paul wheaton
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missoula, montana


May 24, 2010, 10:59:36 PM

What do you call yourself when you have a certificate? A Certified Permaculture designer?

I do.  Although there are some folks that get their knickers in a twist over that. 



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Burra Maluca
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May 25, 2010, 02:31:44 PM

I understand that the Permaculture Institute is no longer keeping a teacher register and will no longer be issuing Permaculture Design Certificates, leaving individual teachers to issue their own certificates.  I wonder what will happen to the syllabus now?  Will it be up to each teacher to decide what to teach and how much study is required? 
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