D.W. Stratton wrote:
How does one obtain salt if Peak Energy hits and we have a sudden, dramatic collapse of civilization and its systems of production and distribution?
paul wheaton wrote:
The question is: how do we get more people to reply to the thread and offer up a few bucks?
Bethany Dutch wrote:The other day I got to chatting with my Dad about a few different predictions about climate change, etc.
We don't have an adequate substitute for oil just yet. We have a few potentials, and maybe some things that will work on a small scale, but nothing on a big scale.
What would life look like for the people who are left? How long would it take before civilization would sorta somewhat recover? Or would it ever?
paul wheaton wrote:tesla power wall - I got the impression that they are about $7000. And they supposedly will do fine down to 4 degrees. It seems that the the thing to do, for a portable solution, is to have them in a super, tiny insulated room with an incandescent light bulb that comes on when temps are below 20.
Out of all of the solutions that you listed, the one that seems the quickest and I am the most comfortable with would be the propane generator and a conventional portable electric heater.
I think the best thing this year is a series of simple, indicative tests.
Even if we ran the generator for a week, holding the interior temp at 85 degrees F for a week and then observed what happened in the following weeks - all of that would still be nothing more than indicative.
The real test is a year from now. Hence the challenge with "annualized" - it takes a year to do proper tests.
If we had more people in the bootcamp the last few years, we might be two years ahead on this testing. Which is why I have placed so much emphasis on the bootcamp and the BRK for boots.
paul wheaton wrote:I haven't finished reading your post and I need to comment on the propane heater. I have two big concerns:
- it uses up the oxygen in the space (and i am also concerned about the invisible exhausts)
- it puts a huge amount of water into the air