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When to tap trees for sap in NW Cascades?

 
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Hi all,

Back east folks tap maples when the weather hits freezing nights and warm days. 40F days and 20F nights is often when it really flows. Swelling buds is one way to tell when it's time to pull the taps.  What about here in the PNW? Is there a way to tell when it's time to tap? When to stop? Obviously the climate is totally different here and I've read that the season can start as early as November and usually ends around February. I'd love if anyone has any observations that they've made through their experiences tapping. Also, if anyone happens to tap any other trees like birch, I'd love to hear more. Thank you!

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Good question. Sorry I don't have any idea but I'm following your post. We have a couple of big leaf maples I thought it would be fun to experiment with some day.
 
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You are correct, tapping timing is completely different here in the PNW. I'm in Manchester, WA and got about 5 gallions of sap early on, end of DEC, early Feb, then the well dried up. This is my first year and i belong to a PNW syrup group on FB, the membership seems to cover a pretty big area, many are from BC Canada.  The sap flows vary greatly, some are still getting sap, some like myself,  the sap flow has stopped.  Some have even pulled their spiles and lines. For, myself I'm hoping to get a second flow so I'm keeping mine in and will be adding some. I'll report back at the end of march. In the meanwhile you should check out the FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1696984570546228/?ref=share
 
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This is the most recent webinar on Bigleaf maple syrup production I signed up for by WSU Extension Forestry in 2022. https://youtu.be/I8jO4y4neVc
 
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Great thanks for sharing!

Winter's coming haha
 
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I heard it's not worth the squeeze... like the boil off is 80 to 1... but maybe there's where I went wrong... "I heard..."

Looking forward to seeing if this is viable!
 
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I think viable is in the eye of the beholder. Put differently, it's all in the maple sap that floats your pancake boat!

Having a local sugar is pretty amazing (one that isn't fruit-based.. I make apple syrup too). We certainly have enough wood around here to cook it down. But I think what I'm most excited to tell folks about is that you don't need to cook it at all! You can drink as is, Brew your tea, carbonate, squeeze in some "citrus" (eg sumac), whatever. If you like it a little sweeter, reduce it a touch first. Make a bag of maple ice cubes for special drinks or even pressure can it (yes takes extra energy).

But also yes, people are successfully profiting off of it: Neil

I've made some very delicious big leaf maple syrup since my original post and don't feel like the ratio is a big deal for me personally. I'm used to tapping red and norway maple which are both around 60 to 1 and birch which is even less. The thing that I'm still having a hard time with is timing. When it flows here seems to be so random, and by the time conditions are pretty good, your holes have begun to heal and you don't get flow! So you have to continually tap through the season and really catch they flows at the right time. Especially because the flow may only last a few days (in my area at least). I'm into the challenge though. Being tapped into my environment and such ;)
 
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