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Podcast 355 - Just Enough Review - Part 1

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Paul had Abe Coley, from Home ReSource in Missoula, with him in this podcast to review Just Enough: Lessons on Living Green from Traditional Japan, by Azby Brown.

The book is written in stories, extensively researched. In this podcast they discuss the Forward and Chapter One, the farmer from kai province.

In the Foreword the author talks about the present state of the world having parallels with earlier Japan and how in the late Edo they pulled themselves back from potential societal and environmental collapse and progressed into a superior traditional technology and culture which can be useful for us to incorporate. This starts with having 'just enough' as the basis of one's world view.
Paul says that Just Enough, for him, relates to the husp aspect of his anticipated land project. HUSP is Horticulture in the United States of Pocahontas, what the States might be like now if it hadn't been colonized by Europeans when it was. The describes very strict, pure, simple, and clean ways of life from the late Edo period 1603 – 1868 before Japan opened itself up to the West and industrialization.
Abe liked the pictures of plants and wished that they'd been labeled with western names. He also enjoyed the clear structure and explanatory nature of the book. They both found many of the practices, illustrations, etc very reminiscent of permaculture. They then discussed various aspects and scale of organization of farm and village systems.

Relevant Threads

Just Enough By Azby Brown
Podcast 242 - Just Enough Part 2
husp thread on Permies
Home ReSource
Just Enough site
Article about the Author Azby Brown

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posted 12 years ago

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Is there a download link?

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Part two is available for free. The rest need to be purchased from scrubbly.

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Thanks all, Paul especially. The cheapskate in me riles at ever shelling out money, but I did so for the RMH DVD kickstarter, and I think I will probably get the other 9 parts of the review, as well as the book itself. But tell me, if I click on the amazon.ca link in this thread, will you get a monetary kick from it? I just want to make sure that if its set up that way that I use the right link.

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Yup, all of the amazon links are set up to give us a kickback.

A note about this series: I feel like this full-book-review-thing is not a good fit for the regular podcast track. At the same time i think this might make a poor man's substitute for an audio book. The book itself really won't fit the audio book format. But as we look at the images and try to describe them, I think we do a half assed job of conveying a fair amount of that. Then there are some discussions I've had with Adrien about the possibility that this style might be able to get into other places where the regular podcasts do not go. So this is yet another in a long series of experiments.

If we get a lot of paid downloads, we can do more of this style of book review. If we don't, then I guess it will have turned out to be a stupid idea.

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Why did you decide to make Part 2 available as opposed to Part 1?

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Funny that I was the last person to post here a year ago.

Anyway, I'm listening now and there was brief mention of Farmers of Forty Centuries (free pdf). I was surprised Paul hadn't heard about it. It's a good read, interesting nuggets of info.

I would like to suggest this as a book review/book discussion book. After we're done with the PDM, of course.

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This podcast is now free.

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