A discussion with Art on how he is working with California legislators on making so eco innovators can legally innovate. He also talks about the current state of how lawmakers need lawbreakers to legislate progress.
Part of this is what Art calls Optimal Integrated Design.
Art also talks a lot about fire, wildfire, and homeowner strategies. He talks about how he currently lives in an area where the trees contain something that is especially flamable. He then goes into detail about a strategy to weather the fire. He has an office that is built of cob, and even has a cob door.
This is the first ever podcast that I have put out that is not available for free. $2.50 at ...
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