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butter vs. margarine
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paul wheaton
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Joined: Apr 01, 2005
Posts: 11810
Location: missoula, montana (zone 4)
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The yellow goo at the top is margarine.
The yellow goo at the left is "reduced fat margarine"
The stuff with the ants all over it is butter.
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paul wheaton
steward
Joined: Apr 01, 2005
Posts: 11810
Location: missoula, montana (zone 4)
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The ants do not recognize the margarine as food.
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Thelma McGowan
Joined: Jul 03, 2011
Posts: 170
Location: western Washington, Snohomish county--zone 8b
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Wow...a picture is worth a thousand words.
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Frolf Lundgren
Joined: Feb 20, 2012
Posts: 39
Location: Finland, MN
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At least one ant is watching his/her diet. Reminds me of Joe American who orders two big macs, three french fries and a "diet pepsi".
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John Polk
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Joined: Feb 20, 2011
Posts: 4057
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Butter vs margarine:
My attitude is that I trust a cow more than I do a lab technician.
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Daniel Morse
Joined: Feb 13, 2012
Posts: 198
Location: SW Michigan
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My brother and I did this after we noticed the flies loved my toast in the morning. I use butter. He is a margarine fan. No flies for him.
So, we took a stick of each. On a piece of wood on the wood pile. The butter was gone right away. Ants, flies, chipmunks and whatever. The margarine just made a mess. I never liked margarine. I also have no health issues with my heart or such. I may be crazy, but I am a healthy big guy who happens to be crazy. It is basically plastic.
Anything my dogs sniff and sorta eat. I will not eat either.
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Rick Freeman
Joined: Jan 08, 2012
Posts: 101
Location: NW Montana, Hardiness Zone 4a
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Hmmm. Interesting on-the-fly study.
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Betty Montgomery
Joined: Nov 13, 2011
Posts: 41
Location: Lone Oak, TX
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Am I seeing things or are there a couple of dead ants in the melted margarine? Does that mean it could be used as an insecticide?
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Ashley Ross
Joined: Mar 01, 2012
Posts: 76
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A few guys seem to have gotten a little side tracked. Maybe they are the not so smart ants. Look at those guys just sorta floating over there. I like to think they've got the margarine blindness-hahaha!
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Wayne Bennion
Joined: Mar 17, 2012
Posts: 3
Location: SF East Bay
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Got to the bottom of this page, and I had to laugh. An ad for margarine! We have flummoxed the ad machine. Hooray!
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Raven Sutherland
Joined: Nov 09, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: Massachusetts
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very interesting Paul
the same trick (example) can be used... with birds
as they will not eat -> white rice.....
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Chris Kott
Joined: Jan 25, 2012
Posts: 579
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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My aunt and her family have been margarine-crazy for as long as I can remember. I could never understand, and after that photo, I am confirmed in my position. I see a lot of people with the pro-margarine mindset also ascribing to the all-antibacterial soap all-the-time life philosophy, and I see, probably as a result of both practice and mindset, people with way more allergies to food and environmental agents than I ever thought normal. As to the margarine specifically, the only basis for the unhealthiness of butter that I can see is the same as that for animal fat, or lard. If the fat product you're taking is from livestock that is raised in a healthy way, the product will be good for you; if not, then not. I'd like to see some basis in numbers for this, but Paul has stated on at least one podcast that organic lard is almost a superfood for its nutritional benefits.
-CK
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Raven Sutherland
Joined: Nov 09, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: Massachusetts
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That add for margarine can be prohibited in order to foster better health
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Dale Hodgins
Joined: Jul 28, 2011
Posts: 1959
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
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In checking out products containing trans fats, I discovered that some brands of microwave popcorn are the worst offenders.
Some brands of margarine contain just a pinch of olive oil. The labels make a big deal about that ingredient. The unsuspecting consumer could easily be duped into thinking that olive oil is the principal or the only ingredient. >
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Raven Sutherland
Joined: Nov 09, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: Massachusetts
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the order of ingredients on the labels indicates
the amount of each item
so if just a tiny amount of olive oil is in it
then it should be listed last.
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Dale Hodgins
Joined: Jul 28, 2011
Posts: 1959
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
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Raven Sutherland wrote:the order of ingredients on the labels indicates
the amount of each item
so if just a tiny amount of olive oil is in it
then it should be listed last.
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True, but that doesn't prevent the usage of an "olivey" sounding name and a label which includes Italian scenery and architecture. The fine print indicates the 85% canola content.
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Michael Radelut
Joined: Jan 21, 2011
Posts: 192
Location: Germany, 7b-ish
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Daniel Morse wrote:I also have no health issues with my heart or such. I may be crazy, but I am a healthy big guy who happens to be crazy.
Trust me, you're not crazy
And the things you might get a heart condition from are probably not the ones you're thinking about.
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Michael Radelut
Joined: Jan 21, 2011
Posts: 192
Location: Germany, 7b-ish
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Chris Kott wrote:I'd like to see some basis in numbers for this, but Paul has stated on at least one podcast that organic lard is almost a superfood for its nutritional benefits.
-CK
Well, you might start here; fun introduction for sure.
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Raven Sutherland
Joined: Nov 09, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: Massachusetts
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well
we are designed by nature to burn fat like a rocket stove burns wood
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