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paul wheaton
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Posts: 5600

missoula, montana


September 29, 2009, 05:53:44 PM

Anybody built one?

Anybody using one?

Anybody seen one in action?

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Joel Hollingsworth
Posts: 1623

zone 10: Oakland, CA


September 29, 2009, 06:47:07 PM

I've built an analogous electric circuit.   smiley

They're great for running LEDs on mostly-dead batteries.

But to your question, I had looked into them too...curious little devices.  I found good info here (emphasis mine):

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The Hydromissions® Ram Pump is a non-electric, mechanical water-pumping device that is placed in a small stream or creek to pump water up hill for storage or irrigation.  Although we have had lots of requests for these due to their curiosity, ram pumps are tricky to tune, and have (in our opinion) limited application in most of the missions environments that we typically encounter.  In light of this, rather than selling them, we have posted Free Plans for you to build your own. 

http://www.hydromissions.com/products.htm#plans

and a first-person account of installing one, here:

http://www.aidg.org/component/option,com_jd-wp/Itemid,34/p,1019/

Notice that last one was an engineer, who had a village worth of volunteer labor.  Also, they mention being careful to mount everything sturdily so that it doesn't shake itself to pieces.

In general, it seems like you pay for using renewable sources with a somewhat wasteful use of energy, and elegant principles of operation call for some serious design acumen.  When it's a good idea to use one of these, it seems like it's an exceptionally good idea.
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jtjf_1
Posts: 27


September 30, 2009, 02:34:45 AM

Hey There

Well I have Built three

Seen many in use.

As of right now i don't have a water supply so i cant use one.

Here is a brochure you can look at really simple but good info.

My Friend made it up a long time ago used all over the world now. He travel around now sharing in 3rd world countries.

The attachment is kinda weired because it is supposed to be printed. Read cover on 1st attachment then second attachment then back to first sorry for inconvenience


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Joel Hollingsworth
Posts: 1623

zone 10: Oakland, CA


September 30, 2009, 11:43:11 AM

Looks like your first attachment is re: ram pumps, and the second is re: tube wells.

Both look like good info, but it seems we have half of each.
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"the qualities of these bacteria, like the heat of the sun, electricity, or the qualities of metals, are part of the storehouse of knowledge of all men.  They are manifestations of the laws of nature, free to all men and reserved exclusively to none." SCOTUS, Funk Bros. Seed Co. v. Kale Inoculant Co.
jtjf_1
Posts: 27


September 30, 2009, 07:24:46 PM

Wow I feel silly.  cheesy

Ok sorry about that that is what i get when trying to post by looking at thumbnails.

Here is the proper one.

If any one is interested i have all of Rus' brochures they are 11 of them.

The Topics Are

Ram Pumps

Rus Pump

Tube Well

Ferro Cement Water Tank

How To Make A Water Filter

Water Sealed Toilet

Mornington Toilet

Water Jar

How To Make Salt

Stoves

"A" Frame for contouring sloping land


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paul wheaton
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Posts: 5600

missoula, montana


September 30, 2009, 10:46:45 PM

What's a rus pump?

I think several of those things need explanation.  New thread(s)?

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cnsilver
Posts: 7


October 13, 2009, 11:38:53 PM

Yup!!! Thank God for our ram pump!! We bought ours from a company in Texas.  The  man was very helpful getting ours set up.  We went with a 1" pump, the cheapest they made to see if we had adequate flow and fall.  now that pump raises water 600' to our camp(140" vertical!) We were given an estimate of $20,000 for a drilled well which is not an option right now but we wanted to be able to enjoy our new piece of earth now... when there is a will there is away grin
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Jami McBride
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Posts: 815

PNW - Oregon Zone-6


October 14, 2009, 12:12:46 AM

All those brochures would be great to have, but not posted in any thread, posted instead as articles -

I want a stationary, how-to, articles section  grin
How about permies.com, articles could go there.....
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paul wheaton
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Posts: 5600

missoula, montana


October 14, 2009, 10:44:33 AM

All those brochures would be great to have, but not posted in any thread, posted instead as articles -

I want a stationary, how-to, articles section  grin
How about permies.com, articles could go there.....

I'll see what I can do ....  Smiley


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PoolMachine
Posts: 1


WWW
July 28, 2010, 10:49:29 PM

Hi everyone!

I'm a good reader but when it comes to technicalities and specs, I'm a total wreck  rolleyes Can anyone post or send me some videos?
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Our lives are like pool pump motors, we have to know the right grounds to do right things Cheesy
Mangudai
Posts: 63


August 23, 2010, 08:16:09 PM


Anybody seen one in action?



This farm  http://www.bugtusslefarm.com/
uses a ram pump for all farm needs.  The pump was entirely built by the farmer using plumbing supplies, and is similar to the diagrams above.

There are perrenial streams with about 18 ft of usable head.  The pump handles about 320 gallons per day, lifting water up  to storage tanks over 100 ft up and 1/2 a mile away. 

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