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buddy110
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September 01, 2009, 07:21:03 PM

Do you folks recommend fertilizing now? I live in the NE and I have enough Agway organic fertilizer for three applications. Should I do one more app now or just wait till spring?

Thanks in advance
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Jeremy Bunag
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September 02, 2009, 08:03:54 AM

I'm about ready to do my fall feeding.  The temps are cooler and my grass as perked up from the hot summer and is ready to dine!

If your grass is awake and ready to eat, feed it!  Especially if Org fertilizer laying around, what do you have to lose?  Unless you're smothing, or using something with a lot of available N (*I don't really know what Agway Org has in it, is it grains/meal?), you can't really overdo it, it will just feed for longer.
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buddy110
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September 02, 2009, 08:17:48 AM

Thanks,
  I will do a fall feeding. It's my understanding that late fall (November) feedings promote snow mold. Is this coprrect?
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Jeremy Bunag
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September 02, 2009, 08:47:57 AM

From what I understand (and please anyone with more understanding correct me!), the snow mold comes from the excess of N providing food for the mold.

I think that's part of the beauty of organics:  when stuff slows down and stops eating, the bio processes also stop breaking down our org fertilizer, and N stops getting made.

I could be talking out of my a$$ right now (going from memory rather than researching it again)...
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buddy110
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September 05, 2009, 06:40:10 PM

Then a fall feeding it is!
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steve adams
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December 13, 2009, 05:16:50 PM

is there a way i can make my own fertilizer out of my own compost?
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Joel Hollingsworth
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December 14, 2009, 04:51:27 PM

is there a way i can make my own fertilizer out of my own compost?

Absolutely!

Finished compost is widely regarded as the best possible fertilizer.
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Scott Reil
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January 27, 2010, 01:58:41 PM

Sorry to be late to the party...

Couldn't agree more with Joel about compost...

Not so sure about Jeremies assertions for fall feeding...

Snow mold is indeed an active organism. While fungi does not account for vast amounts of N in a the average lawn, it does cause N release as ammonium from organic sources, including fertilizer. So N type ferts, even organic, are not a great idea; lean more into other low N types for this time of season (worm casts, compost, etc.) or just skip it. As evidenced by snow mold, cold does not denote completely dormant soil. Few things do; soil for the most part is alive...

So buddy, if the snowmold HAS popped out we can do some organic things to check it. Milk is a great low level fungicide and shows effect from 3:1 to 10:1 ratios with water (adjust to severity of issue). Corn meal is a favored food of a very common soil fungus called Trichoderma, so adding this to the soil as it warms might help check a recurrence the following year. And simply increasing biodiversity ( a favorite topic of Paul's) is ALWAYS beneficial in checking ANY soil pathogen, and adding good compost is a bonzer way to do that...

Hope this helps...

HG
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