Saana Jalimauchi

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Christopher Weeks wrote:I think ultimately, if the point is to show how easy it is to grow a million Calories on an acre of dirt, we'll figure the Calories we grow on our 200 sqft and multiply it by 217.8 to get the amount we would have grown if we had been tending an acre.



Well that makes more sense. My brain was in the mode of "tracking the progress through the growing season" and counting it the whole time by the calories per acre!
4 hours ago

Ashley Cottonwood wrote:When I was picturing in my head my garden space for GAMCOD I was thinking like a dozen species stacked on top of each other. This is why counting the calories per acre was confusing to me.



This kind of setup was in my head too, and comparing the actual calories grown on the 200 square feet by the different gardeners.

So how does the math go with the counting calories per acre?

Let's forget the "messy polyculture" way of planting for a second and imagine that I planted 40 square feet of flat area with just potatoes.

Is this how the math goes:

I measure the space that the plants take, then weight the harvest, and look up how many calories there is in potatoes.
Count the calories I grew per the 40 square feet, then count how big of a part it is from my 200 square feet..
And then scale it up as if I had an acre instead of the 200 square feet, to get to the calories per acre?

Is that it or am I just missing something?
5 hours ago

Maria Tucker wrote:Hey! Which would be the best accommodation for a family of five for a week starting mid June if you have availability?

Thanks!
Maria



Hi Maria!

For a family of five, the options would be the Cooper Cabin up at The Lab and the Fisher Price House Bunkroom and the Solarium at Base Camp.

Cooper Cabin is an actual cabin, a wofati, while Solarium and the Bunkroom are just spaces to sleep. Cooking is possible at the Cooper Cabin, and it has a really nice indoor willow feeder style toilet.

If you click here, you will end up to the description for the Cooper Cabin. The description has some links in it you can click for more information!

Let me know if you have any other questions!

Anne Miller wrote:Put the lemon juice in ice cube trays for times when the recipe calls for tablespoons or teaspoons.



Okay umm.. How didn't I think about this?! So simple.

But now I'm committed to a lemon feast.

Megan Palmer wrote:I make a type of trifle that uses layers of homemade strawberry jam, fresh strawberries lemon cake and curd with limoncello that is rather good and used the water bathed curd in.



Megan, oh that trifle sounds so good.. It's a long way to summer and fresh strawberries though, so that one has to wait for a while!

And for the suggestion for the savoury dish.. That sounds really tasty! Thank you!

I will definitely let you guys know how it all ends up.


Oh, and please keep the recipes coming permie people, I'm not yet committed to anything.. Oh well, except maybe Jordan's potatoes.
2 days ago
Oh wow, thank you Megan, Anne and Jordan!

Lemon curd - I have never made it but I do like to bake cakes and I have ran into lemon curd a lot.. Now is the time! I wonder if one could freeze lemon curd for storage.

Anne, that pie looks delicious.. And so bright and sunny!

Jordan, lemon potatoes sounds really interesting..!


I wonder if a lemon themed feast would be too much.. My mother-in-law loves lemons so maybe when she's visiting. We would find out if there's a point where she says "no more lemons!".
2 days ago
Hi and welcome to Permies!

What I'm reading from your post.. It sounds like the Permaculture Bootcamp at Wheaton Labs might be a thing for you! It's located in Montana.

Check out this thread for getting an idea of what it's about: https://permies.com/wiki/bootcamp#507365
2 days ago



click here to see the official bootcamp web page!
Most of the information is on that page.  This thread is mostly for discussion.

The bootcamp has three openings on March 17!  .

Bonus for Boots: Get Tickets to the 2024 Summer Events at Wheaton Labs


Let's make sure you are in the right place:

permaculture bootcamp: "learn permaculture with a little hard work." 40 hours a week for a few weeks or months.  Get a warm bunk and organic food with your gardening and natural building experiences. Kinda school-ish. If this is what you are looking for, you found the right web page!

the sepper program:  Rent a humble cabin for a few days or weeks.  Participate in the bootcamp as much or as little as you like.  Maybe you come as a couple and one person works online while the other is in the bootcamp.  For more information click here.







A recent bootcamp project:




A recent winter bootcamp project:





We have 220 acres.  We spend our days gardening and building stuff to our standards. In the winter we heat our buildings with rocket mass heaters (we have more than a dozen).  We are the host for the annual "Permaculture Technology Jamboree" - and in a way, the bootcamp build those same things all year.  We even get quite a few experts stopping by from time-to-time.

We have a different way we do things.  Our gardens feature a lot of hugelkultur. The homes we build are made of logs and mud.  Zero cement, paint or glue.

People come to hang out in the bootcamp for a week or two to immerse themselves in this form of living.  Some come for months.  Some come for years.  

95% of the work done is to benefit the current boots or the future boots. Growing gardens to produce the food of the bootcamp. Building habitat for the bootcamp.  Caring for tools that are used by the bootcamp.  Etc.



a little jingle in your pocket

COIN-1: Several boots have harvested hundreds of dollars by posting pics and videos of theirs experiences here in the BRK program (now at about $2000).

COIN-2: You can shoot videos for Paul's YouTube channel. Details here.

COIN-3: After a few weeks (once we think you can do stuff on your own), talk to us about some bounties for coin.  There are several little projects we are willing to pay for.   A person could earn about $100 to $200 per month on evenings and weekends.

COIN-4: And if there is a special tool or bit of warm clothes you would like to have, the BRK program has proven to be quite generous.

COIN-5: When people need a ride to and from the airport a person with a rig could harvest pick-up and drop-off bounties.  (Normally $20 one way during normal hours and $50 for crazy hours)

COIN-6: When a boot is here long enough, they can harvest some coin giving tours.

COIN-7: Sometimes we have a rush and there is a need for people to help with rentals - and that pays money!

COIN-8: Some ants and deep roots people have paid for help with their plots - building and gardening.

COIN-9: We have a neighbor that sometimes needs some construction help and has paid for that on evenings and weekends.

COIN-10: Some residents in the past have set up patreon accounts and made a few hundred bucks a month posting videos and pics.  

COIN-11: When you have a plot to play with, you can build a fence and some gardens and a structure.   And then you can sell those improvements to somebody else.  

COIN-12: When a boot is here long enough, they can harvest some coin helping with events on weekends.


your own acre

All boots that have been here for a month get an acre to plant their own seeds and build their own natural building.   You can even start with an acre that has some work already done on it.


bonus stuff

If people have been in the bootcamp for a couple of months, we give them a ticket to our Permaculture Design Course, Permaculture Technology Jamboree, SKIP event, Garden Master Course or Rocket Mass Heater Jamboree.  We might even be open to something similar for other events.


the tie-in to the PEP program

The estimates are that a person participating in the bootcamp might get PEP1 certified in about 10 to 12 weeks.   We're thinking half of the BBs would be harvested during project labor and the other half would be on evenings and weekends.   More about the PEP program here.



An interview with people that had been in the bootcamp program, about the bootcamp program



audio only.  


Bits and bobs that might be of interest to new boots:

A summary of all things Wheaton Labs
BRK for boots
bonus for boots - event tickets info
the Wheaton Labs forum
online permaculture design course (133 hours of video of the 2017 PDC and ATC)
the 2024 Permaculture Technology Jamboree
the 2024 SKIP: Skills to Inherit Property event


wwoof intern


How to become a Boot


To get in, you must pay the non-refundable fee of $100 for each person.  So a couple would pay $200.   (reminder, this is a drug and tobacco free campus)

You can pay with PayPal, Stripe or Crypto - you'll get the option to choose which once you hit the big shiny button below:








Once we receive payment, we will contact you to start sorting out the particulars.





FAQ


I enjoy weed once in a while, how can I enjoy my weed and still be respectful to your weed-free campus thing?

I suspect a few people have done that.   They go on road trips to washington state for a weekend.  That way they aren't bringing any here.


Do you live under a ten foot thick block of ice through the winter?

This last winter, the ground was bare quite a lot.  Snow would fall and then melt off.  I'm not sure if we even had one day where the temperature got below zero. More details here.


click here for the complete FAQ


Here you can get an idea of 65 different things that the boots have created in about 9 minutes



..
I'm planning to brew some enzyme cleaner, and I need a lot of lemon peels for it. But before I can even think about it, I need to figure out what to do with all those lemons!

I'm looking for recipes or ideas for foods, drinks and baked goods that feature lemons. Well, basicly lemon juice, as I'm using the peels for the cleaner.


I'll start with a heavenly lemon cheesecake recipe:

crust

150g digestive biscuits
50-75g melted butter

filling

4dl double cream, whipped
250g mascarpone
200g creme fraiche
juice (and peel, finely grated) from one lemon
1tsp vanilla sugar
1dl powdered sugar
4 gelatin leaves (á 10g)

Put gelatin leaves into cold water to hydrate.
Put the mascarpone, creme fraiche, lemon juice and the sugars to a bowl and whip them into fluffiness.
Add in the whipped cream.
Heat the lemon juice and add the hydrated gelatin leaves to it. (Squeese the excess water out of them first)
Let the gelatin leaves melt in to the juice while stirring. Then let the mixture cool for a couple of minute.
Add the lemon juice and gelatin mixture to the cake filling slowly, dripping it in in a thin stream while mixing the whole time.

Pour on top of the crust. Let it set in the fridge for at least three hours.



That starts my list. But what else could I make?
2 days ago
SEPPers Program:
Seriously Excited About Permaculture Pampering!


Vacation Rentals and Accommodations at Wheaton Labs


This is still in it's early stages, and this program isn't quite as much about luxury just yet as it is just

absorbing the awesomeness of wheaton labs, staying in a really cool eco-accommodation, learning and being inspired.

Prices for these packages are going to be low for now, until we can build them up with more goodies and fun,
but for the time being, you can get a pretty sweet deal on a vacation package.


With each stay, SEPPers will get:

  • to join the community for taco tuesday with Paul
  • access to thousands of acres of forest service and wilderness land for recreation
  • plenty of parking
  • free firewood
  • optional participation in the bootcamp (between 8-5 M-F) and, with enough notice, maybe even influence what the bootcamp will be working on during your stay
  • photo with the Duke!


  • a ride to and from the airport, if needed. ($20 for regular hours, $50 for goofy hours)
  • a full tour of basecamp ($75), or a full tour of the lab ($75), or a quickie drive by tour ($60)
  • hands on activities with resident(s) on various projects (about $20/hour)
  • work on PEP BBs with guidance ($) and possibly with our equipment ($)



  • But the best part of being a SEPPer?

    You're an honored guest, and are free to do absolutely nothing at all if that's your wish - lounge in the tipi, roast marshmallows, go on a hike, watch the clouds pass - whatever makes your spirit sing.

    You're the guest, and ultimately you can be as hands on or as hands off as charms your soul.

    Maybe you would like to build experiences with rocket mass heaters, or building stuff out of roundwood, green woodworking, or wofati construction, or cob stuff, or building hugelkultur, or fermenting foods, bow hunting, driving the excavator or the tractor...
    There is a long, long list of possibilities!  

    We can coordinate with you and our residents to see if we might be able to arrange for some really cool projects, depending on what your interests are.
    Plan to spend about $20/hour for residents' time. If you are super industrious and help more than sit back and watch, then maybe that resident won't charge you for their time.

    Some things about food:

    You have to bring your own (organic) food, but if you help in the bootcamp for half a day, you can join the boots for a meal.
    If you help for a full day, you can join the boots for three meals!  

    For $20 fee, we can rent you a cooler with ice packs to keep your food cool.
    There is a freezer available for switching ice packs for frozen ones.


    Note that this program is still pretty experimental for us. We hope to get better and better at doing this with each passing year.


    Use the links below to make payments for a SEPPer stay.
    Once your payment is received, Paul forwards the particulars to his assistant who will get the details all sorted.

    Discounted pricing is offered to those attending a workshop at Wheaton Labs (see our event calendar for the latest).
    That pricing will be sent to you after you fill out the registration form for that event.

    If you have any questions, please post to this thread. If it's a private question, e-mail bunks AT richsoil DOT com.




    Accommodations you can choose for the SEPPer program

    wheaton labs is over 200 acres on two pieces of property (Base Camp and The Labs--see the following post for maps and each property's unique features) nestled in the forested, Rocky Mountain foothills near Missoula, Montana (USA). Kick back and enjoy the pristine wilderness and/or join in on one of our tours, operate one of our many rocket mass heaters, visit or stay in a wofati, revel in massive hugelkultur gardens, go bow hunting, sign up to drive the excavator or the tractor .... we've got these and more options for you!

    Base Camp: Love Shack | Red Cabin | Fisher Price Bunkroom | Tenting at Base Camp

    The Labs: Tipi with Rocket Mass Heater | Allerton Abbey | Cooper Cabin | AmayZheng Dog Star (former Shann-delier) | Tenting at The Labs


    wheaton labs base camp rentals


    Porta-cabin / The Love Shack 


    This is base camp's micro cabin with the "Minnie Mouse" rocket mass heater, twin size bottom bunk, twin size top bunk, off-grid with small solar to charge a phone or operate one light. The willow bank (willow feeder style toilet) and shower shack both are just a short walk, about 200 feet from the love shack. Base camp's wifi does not reach the Love Shack, though the community space called the library just down the driveway does have wifi and regular electricity should the solar power run out at the cabin.  Firewood is included, though you'll likely have to chop your own kindling.  
     

    rocket-powered shower shack willow bank bathrooms


    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-5 nights:   (click here to pay $300) (additional people $20 each)
    6-10 nights:   (click here to pay $475) (additional people $30 each)
    11-15 nights: (click here to pay $550) (additional people $50 each)
    16-30 nights: (click here to pay $700) (additional people $100 each)



    Red Cabin  


    The red cabin has seen four different versions of Rocket Mass Heaters, the newest being the "old reliable" with a mass going under the bed! Bunk bed with a double on the bottom and a single on top, all bedding plus fluffy organic cotton towels provided. Firewood is included but you might need to chop your own kindling. About 200 feet from the willow bank (willow feeder style toilet) and shower shack and a short walk up to the fisher price house.

    rocket-powered shower shack willow bank bathrooms


    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-5 nights:   (click here to pay $210) (additional people $20 each)
    6-10 nights:   (click here to pay $300) (additional people $30 each)
    11-15 nights: (click here to pay $400) (additional people $50 each)
    16-30 nights: (click here to pay $600) (additional people $100 each)



    Fisher Price House Bunk Bedroom 


    We call the main house at base camp the "Fisher Price House" because it is a double-wide mobile home. We offer bunks in the small bunk bedroom sort of similar to hostel accommodations. There are two full size bunks and two twin size bunks.  So it could provide bunks for six people. Open shelves (we've moved all books to the library) and a closet provide room for your bag and clothes. There is access to a full bathroom just across the hall. Access to the kitchen depends on whether the kitchen is the event kitchen during your stay. (See our event calendar for the latest.) Full bedding and fluffy organic cotton towels are provided.


    Top Bunk (1 person):
    1-7 nights:   (click here to pay $200)
    8-10 nights:   (click here to pay $250)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $300)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $400)

    Bottom Bunk (1-2 people):
    1-7 nights:   (click here to pay $300)
    8-10 nights:   (click here to pay $400)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $500)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $600)

    To rent the entire bunk room (1 to 6 people):
    1-2 nights:   (click here to pay $210)
    3-4 nights: (click here to pay $350)
    5-7 nights: (click here to pay $450)
    8-14 nights: (click here to pay $650)
    15-30 nights: (click here to pay $1100)



    Camping / Pitch a tent at base camp  


    Base camp is easy drive in access for car camping, pitching a tent on one of our tent pads, or finding a secluded spot on one of the plateau meadows, in the trees, or up on the hollowed out volcano with good submarine access. Volcano road is a rough, rocky one-lane road that snakes up the 500-foot rise of the rocky hillsides of base camp and around to the back of the volcano's peak.

    RV, trailer, and car parking is at the base of hilly base camp, in the sandy parking lot behind our shop that we call Arrakis, or in our small turtle parking lot. We do not provide RV hookups at this time and generators are not allowed to be used. Arrakis and the turtle lot do not have much shade, though we are attempting to grow trees (from seed!) to change that.

    The willow bank (willow feeder style toilet) and shower shack are available for your use.

    rocket-powered shower shack willow bank bathrooms


    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-10 nights:   (click here to pay $200) (additional people $20 each)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $250) (additional people $40 each)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $300) (additional people $80 each)



    Check out our full tour here. Contact us for other options for staying more than a month.




    wheaton labs the lab rentals


    Tipi with a rocket mass heater 


    The function of this tipi is to seriously experience the value of the rocket mass heater.  It can be super cold outside, your fire goes out at 9pm, and you are warm as toast til morning. Inside the tipi is a cob bed platform which *just* sleeps two if they like to sleep close. Burn as much wood as you like in the rocket mass heater (RMH) which heats the entire bench and bed platform.  We provide full bedding on a mattress made out of straw (as part of our experimenting to have household materials as natural as possible, alternative option available for allergics), plus pillows and blankets for the cob bench seating. There's a hot water kettle that heats up on top of the RMH barrel, plus full water jugs for washing and drinking along with bins, soap and cloths for washing dishes outside. Candles are the only lighting source since the tipi does not have any solar panels in this off-grid location. Fluffy organic towels are provided for showers at base camp. Firewood is included in these rates, though you'll likely have to chop your own kindling. The chateau de poo (a willow feeder style toilet) is about a hundred yards away (next picture), a little walk through the woods.  The tipi is also about a hundred feet from the bee hut.

     bee hive hut at Wheaton labs


    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-5 nights:  (click here to pay $300) (additional people $20 each)
    6-10 nights:  (click here to pay $475) (additional people $30 each)
    11-15 nights: (click here to pay $550.00) (additional people $40 each)
    16-30 nights: (click here to pay $700.00) (additional people $80 each)



     Allerton Abbey

    Annualized Thermal Inertia testing starts in June 2024!



    Allerton Abbey has one full size bed and two twin bunks.  The thermal mass has not yet been fully charged, so the annualized thermal inertia cannot be tested yet, but there is a rocket cook stove inside which does a good job of heating said mass, and the occupants. This is a great way to get a closer look at this highly realistic vision of an eco friendly home, and how well it functions. Bring your favorite cast iron pans, split a little kindling, and get cozy in your bunk while you daydream of the modifications you would make if this were your Wofati.

    (Base prices are for 1-4 people)
     
    1-3 nights:   (click here to pay $225) (additional people $20 each)
    4-7 nights:   (click here to pay $300) (additional people $30 each)
    8-14 nights: (click here to pay $500) (additional people $50 each)
    15-30 nights: (click here to pay $900) (additional people $100 each)



    Cooper Cabin (wofati 0.8)  


    Cooper Cabin is our second version of a wofati which, while not quite fully completed, is still a cozy place to stay with a first class rocket mass heater (RMH) in it. It also has Lasse's rocket wood cook stove, plus a (propane) gas stovetop. This is an off-grid cabin with some electricity from the solar leviathan. There is no running water, though we'll fill up a gravity-fed bucket for washing at the sink, and provide plenty of fresh drinking water in glass jugs from our wonderful well at base camp, plus fresh kitchen linens. There will be some dishes, utensils, pots and pans available for your use. Bedding is provided for the two bunk beds (full size on the bottom and twins on the top) in the back bedroom (there is no door to close off that bedroom at this time), and cots or additional bedding can be provided at an additional charge. There is an indoor willow feeder with a foot-pump sink to wash your hands. Firewood is included, though you'll likely have to chop your own kindling. Fluffy organic towels are provided for showers at base camp.


    Top Bunk (1 person):
    1-7 nights:   (click here to pay $200)
    8-10 nights:   (click here to pay $250)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $300)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $400)

    Bottom Bunk (1-2 people):
    1-7 nights:   (click here to pay $220)
    8-10 nights:   (click here to pay $300)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $400)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $500)

    (Entire Cooper Cabin - Base prices are for 1-6 people)
     
    1-3 nights:   (click here to pay $250) (additional people $20 each)
    4-7 nights:   (click here to pay $400) (additional people $30 each)
    8-14 nights: (click here to pay $700) (additional people $50 each)
    15-30 nights: (click here to pay $1,200) (additional people $100 each)




    AmayZheng Dog Star (former Shann-delier) - an Oehler/wofati style mini cabin  

    Dog Star Oehler style underground house, vacation rentals at Wheaton Labs

    This is an off-grid cabin nestled in the woods, with Uncle Mud's Cottage Rocket and single size loft bed. There is no running water, though we'll provide full water jugs for washing and drinking along with bins, soap and cloths for washing dishes outside. There will be a very few dishes, utensils, pots and pans available for your use. Full bedding is provided for the twin loft bed along with fluffy organic cotton towels for showers at base camp. Firewood is included, though you'll likely have to chop your own kindling. It is a bit of a walk to the chateau de poo (a willow feeder style toilet).



    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-7 nights:   (click here to pay $300) (additional people $20 each)
    8-14 nights:   (click here to pay $500.00) (additional people $40 each)
    15-30 nights: (click here to pay $700.00) (additional people $80 each)



    Camping / Pitch a tent at the lab  


    The lab is off-grid and a more remote location than base camp, surrounded by private timber land and U.S. forest land - see more about that location in the next post. We do not have tent pads at the lab, though there are plenty of meadow-like or grassy spots to pitch a tent. RVs or trailers could make to the lab if the road is in decent condition, though of course there would be no hookups available there. Generators are also not allowed to be used.

    You would be welcome to fill up on water at base camp, use any of our willow feeders (the willow bank at base camp, or the willowonka or chateau de poo at the lab) and the shower shack back down the hill at base camp.

    rocket-powered shower shack willow bank bathrooms willowonka bathrom  


    (Base prices are for 1-2 people)

    1-10 nights:   (click here to pay $200) (additional people $20 each)
    11-20 nights: (click here to pay $250) (additional people $40 each)
    21-30 nights: (click here to pay $300) (additional people $80 each)



    Check out our full tour here. Contact us for other options for staying more than a month.



    A note about showers:
    The shower shack is an outdoor shower at base camp with the hot water heated by a rocket wood stove. This means it is seasonal, only in use from late April or May until October (or so). We can help with firing the wood stove to heat the hot water and will post a schedule for when the water will be hot. Renters will also have the option to use the hall bath in the Fisher Price House. We ask that you use only biodegradable soap (or go 'pooless) and remove all of your bathing items from the shower or bathroom when you are done - even if you are staying in the house. We provide buckets to capture the water as it heats up and then we use that water to water plants or bucket flush the flush toilet in the house. (Do not put water in to the willow feeder toilets.)



    Use the links above to make payments for a SEPPer stay, or send payments via paypal to paul AT richsoil DOT com.

    Once your payment is received, Paul forwards the particulars to his assistant who will get the details all sorted.

    Discounted pricing is offered to those attending a workshop at wheaton labs (see our event calendar for the latest).
    That pricing will be sent to you after you fill out the registration form for that event.

    If you have any questions, please post to this thread. If it's a private question, e-mail bunks AT richsoil DOT com.