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Huxley Harter wrote:Practically everything. It has led me to human rewilding philosophies, shaped the way I perceive medicine, has motivated me to use naturally nontoxic shampoo, toothpaste,etc.
Its added to the foundation of future life plans and my decision making paradigm to consider impact on nature. I now see humans as part of nature, not separate. It has given me a way to honor God with all parts of my life, not just a few.
In summary: it has played a major part in shaping who I am.
S Bengi wrote:It looks like only 10% of the water rights are given to families. Do you know if it is possible to purchase additional water rights?
The offered 2acre feet of water is only enough for half an acre of garden/orchard. But some has to be used for the house too, so probably closer to just 1/3rd of an acre of garden/berry space
K Eilander wrote:I see from your website that you do learning webinars, etc.
Are you also planning on doing the permaculture community stuff such as PDC and/or PEP/SKIP?
Also, do you have a place for visitors to stay?
Nicole Alderman wrote:I give this video 9 out of 10 acorns! I was going to write my review a month or two ago, but life got busy! So this is a bit shorter than my normal reviews--sorry! But, I really enjoyed the view into the various different permaculture farms and methods around the world, and their solutions to peak oil and climate change.
Susan Wakeman wrote:I' d been planning on putting out feelers into my community by inviting people that are already involved in different initiatives in my town that might fit under this umbrella, to a pot luck and discussion. I don' t think that would be a good idea now. What would you do instead to get the ball rolling?
I don' t think that these busy people are looking for another thing on their plate, but I thought at least we could all get a bit better connected... and who knows, maybe unearth a handful that would like to do transition. So my first goal was simply to network existing initiatives and people involved, and look for synergies or recurring needs.
The challenge is that the easiest way to do this is for people meeting face to face which is not so easy these days.
Huxley Harter wrote:Warning! Long post!
Nedloh Seaux wrote:
Where am I to go? What am I to do? Who is out there?.....These questions have proven difficult to answer.
Write down your beliefs, dreams, non-negotiables, future plans. Get it on paper in front of you. I find this clears up lots of vague areas. Write down unanswered questions. This helps to find the answers.
Nedloh Seaux wrote:Who am I?
Big question. Keep working on it.
Nedloh Seaux wrote:To be specific, I long for a clean and enriched community, one free of heavy pollution; I am using the word pollution to refer to both harmful substances in the environment (water, air, soil, food, noise, light pollution) and harmful attitudes & values present in society (fear, hatred, bigotry, willful ignorance, consumerism).
Free from heavy amounts, possibly. But humans aren't perfect as far as attitude and all that (myself included).
Nedloh Seaux wrote: I long for a place where I can be a part of something meaningful, where I can grow as an individual and work beside others with similar lifestyles and viewpoints; a place where I can be close to the Earth, working with my hands and learning age-old traditions..... Does such a place exist?
It is my understanding that such places were fairly common when age old traditions were literally their way of life. Think pre-cheap energy. Even better, indigenous tribes. (Human Rewilding is definitely something to look into, that's a whole other topic though.)
As far as today, yes, rather hard to find though.
Here's a couple interesting tidbits (from this thread https://permies.com/t/1794/travel-community-path )regarding such a place:
Elfriede B wrote:
from my personal experience: I lived the first few years of my life in a community like they had existed for hundreds of years and the this particular lifestyle basically faded away in the middle of the last century. I experienced the tail end.
Communities interacted with the "world out there" but basically there was a pretty strong local economy. You had farms, which had their "headquarters" house, barns etc in the village, with fields and meadows in the surrounding countryside. The poorer members of the community worked on the farms. Often it was the young,unmarried who got their first job there and stayed with it until they saved enough to buy a piece of land and build a house. Big farms also might have a family living permanently on the place in a house just for them. The family would have a garden, goats and chickens, maybe a cow, they would get the feed/hay from the farm and worked for the farmer. The community would have a blacksmith, he made farm implements and repaired them, nails and tools, and shoed horses; a cobbler/shoemaker who made shoes and repaired them; a spinster who made her living as the seamstress. If there was lots of work in one house, for instance a daughter getting married, she would come and stay and work in that house. There would be a bakery and a brewery, a pub or two, a butcher who butchered at his place, but also came to your house. There would be a few masons, carpenters, roadworkers employed by the community, a cabinet maker who made furniture, doors, windows and coffins. There would be a store or two. Most families would raise most of their basic food, keep goats or a couple of cows, chickens and geese. Fowl was free ranging. Children had to tend to the flocks of geese in fall to keep them on harvested oat fields. The community had some communal land that was used by all for geese, for instance, and at times to bleach linen. There was a midwife, a priest, a barber and a teacher.
Two supplement income some families would produce brooms, tool handles, clogs, hayrakes, wooden spoons during winter. There were also several wood turners who made household items like bowls and platters, rolling pins, butter molds, needle boxes, table and chair legs. These items were sold at big markets outside of the community. Since I grew up in a mountain village with large forests, the raw material was wood (lets not forget the sawmill). In other areas the local industry might be pottery, if there was a lot of clay there, for instance. In my area, but before my time, they also grew flax and it was spun and woven into linen which was sold.
Fences were maintained, this was not communal living. I would call it intensive neighborhood. People depended on each other for help in emergencies, for their social life and entertainment. Certain work was done in cooperation, for instance to put a roof on house or barn, the neighbors pitched in. There was music and singing. In winter the women and girls would congregate in different houses to do the spinning. Of course I was a mere child but I felt very secure in my world, knew everybody, learned a lot because I liked to watch what people were doing. The community was pretty busy and humming along since most people were at home. Crime was about nonexistent, though some boys might have a fight over a girl. Everybody stayed pretty much on the straight and narrow, after all, what would the neighbors say.
Diana Leafe Christian wrote:
We came up with an idea of starting a new community but NOT using the "community" word at all. Of NOT using a word that would draw those who wanted connection and "family." That would draw people who wanted to join a community so they could feel accepted, valued, included, snuggled, heard, or helped out socially or emotionally. (Does this sound familiar?)
Instead, we asked, what if a group promoted not "community," but the starting of something called "a small, ecologically sustainable human settlement," that was seeking members to help manifest that dream. It would be seeking farmers, gardeners, beekeepers, welders, people who could repair things (from autos to small appliances), entrepreneurs and people with already existing small cottage industries, investors, home-builders and carpenters, meeting facilitators, administrators, bookkeepers. It would seek founders and early members with certain qualities: confidence, high-self esteem (not arrogance), good will, happiness, focus, disciple, work ethic.
We all knew that "the community spirit" would arise naturally from a group of people like this who were drawn to creating a "small, sustainable human settlement." In our theoretical idea, we'd draw the happy and confident and skilled, and deflect away the lonely, needy, and unhappy.
Based on that I do believe its possible to find or make a village like you described. I would recommend getting hands on experience and a solid definite skill in preparation for such an opportunity.
Sorry for the long post I hope you find some good info in there and good luck!
Cécile Guiochon wrote:
Rock Mister wrote:Hi there Bernard and Cecile! I bought your book and it's wonderful! Human Permaculture is indeed very needed especially these days.
I have a question about the "niche" concept which I find very interesting.. Where does this concept of ecological niche come from? I'm curious to hear more about it if you have time.
Thank you and good luck with your new book!
Rock
Hi Mister Rock, the notion of "niche" was defined by the Anglo-American zoologist G.E. Hutchinson in 1957. It refers both to the habitat of a living organism, its role and the conditions necessary for its existence. Each living species has a specific role to play in the Earth's great ecosystem. Including humans! But collectively, humans are the only ones trying to escape our natural "niche". And we are the only species that must identify its individual "niche"... This is one of the great challenges of human permaculture. You will find in our book how to discover your own "niche". It's exciting, full of surprises, and it can lead to a new stage in your life!