Hugo Morvan

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I am a carpenter/mason/gardener etc, living in France, Morvan. Have small garden with about 200 different plantspecies a small natural pond, wild fish. Every year i learn to use more of my own produce, cooking it, potting it up. As well as medicinal herbs/balms. Try to be as self sufficient as financially possible without getting into debt. Spreading the perma culture life style and mind set, which is the only sustainable path forward on this potentially heaven of a planet we are currently ravaging with our short sighted and detached material world views which lead to depression, loneliness, illness, poverty and madness.
France, Burgundy, parc naturel Morvan
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Aha, the landcress is a Brassica verna, so that should not even cross with the Brassica oleracea.
Even if the BoreKale and Brussels Sprouts cross i'll get something which might be very good according to my friend. Any way it will enrich the genepool and be a nice experiment.
The other Brassicas are Green Wave and Mizuna, they are related and from the Juncea type. Brassica juncea should not cross over with the oleracea and verna, but since they are right next to each other i should only let the Mizuna get to flower and eat the greenwaves mostly. Unitil the Mizuna has finished flowering and then let the Green Waves do it's thing.Thanks Rebecca for the tip!
Next year i'll plant the plants of the same groups further apart and by seed exchanges try to introduce new genes as much as possible to get a diverse crop that's very well adapted to the local soils and climate..

Thanks for your contributions and information.

Joylynn, you're lucky your Brassicas are all flowering at different times.
Things have become even more complicated by now as i've discovered more Brassicas on the land. One is landcress, already flowering, and i've got two more Brassicas that are about to flower, a Mizuna and a mustard leave "Green wave".
I've read online you can take cuttings of Brassicas, basicly torn off side branches. So i've taken cuttings of the Kale i really would like to keep and potted them up. It will take a while for them to start growing now again. They might immediatelly start to flower after having taken root, but since they'll be in pots, it will be easier to get them to a place where they'll be pollinated by insects away from polluted Brassicas.

The Mizuna i got from a friend who's asked me to save the seeds, because hers were eaten by bugs. I've taken out the biggest plants and potted them up, the tops of the plants i've cut out and have found viable cuttings in there as well. We'll see. It was a lovely thing this winter to add to the pumpkin soup, because it is pretty spicey/mustardy/hot, in contrast to the sweet pumpkin soup.

Since it's way too complicated for me, i 'll let the plants do what they do and let it be a feast for the insects. What comes out in the seeds will be a surprise.
My friend has told me she has saved Brassica seeds before and the next generation was pretty much similar to the mother plant.
And like J Grouwstra says if i am not too particular about the purity and not marketing, the plants might turn out good enough.
And who knows it might introduce some genes of the better adapted plants into the mix. Their genes will have the upper hand since the best adapted plants create most flowers.
Tailor's been busy. The nurses and people working with people don't need these selfmade ones anymore, a shipment of proper masks came in from China for France.
In Holland still nobody has them, it's an outrage .
2 days ago
Burl, mine look like tree collards don't they?
Michael, yeah i would buy Josephs book. Hasn't he become a yoga teacher? I won't buy a yoga book.
Hi there, i tried Brassicas last year, it wasn't a big success.
There were worms eating my Bruxelles sprouts roots, killing off most of them. two of them survived and are about to flower next week.
The Borekale i planted in the mid of the heatwave. The whole summer was a heatwave/dry spell, last year, a wild boar came and ate most except some hidden ones. The two survivors are about to flower next week too.
It's not clear which one is going to flower first.
I had some brocolli, which failed completely, and some Savoy Cabbage which failed utterly.
The one that did brilliant, were many, survived the drought, worms, cold, looked good to eat, grew quite big and tasted great was the Kale, black Tuscan.
I thought he looked kind of funny, not how i imagined from the picture, but i tread it like a Kale. Getting the leaves from the bottom. It grew closer to the ground than the Kale i had seen, not like a Palm tree at all, and the leaves were totally different, but it tasted great, so i didn't look into it.

Until now. Turns out it is some kind of mix and the e-bay account(what the hell was i thinking) of the guy i got the seeds from has been closed down. Guess he got into trouble for his weird mix.

I always try to save seeds, because it saves money and because i believe the next generation will be better adapted to my soil, conditions, plagues, bad temper and everything else then the previous ones. And so i will with these Brassicas. I've looked online, people say it's very difficult and don't bother.
But why would i even listen to them when my best Brassica was a weird mix from a guy that closed his ebay account and not some of the pure races everybody advocates.

So now, how to proceed, because i am not hindered by any knowledge about Brassicas i thought to tie a plastic bag over the flowers and tie it closed at the stem. But maybe they need an insect to cross pollinate. Or me with a cotton swab.. Maybe they don't self pollinate.
I have no idea and would appreciate any guidance. Even stuff like don't even bother, it's useless.

I've ordered the Carol Deppe book Breed your own vegetable varieties. So i guess i'll learn more soon.
Thank you S. Bard.  Glad to help. Depends on how thick the layer is you put on it. If it's 150 square meter and you put 1 cm of the layer on. You will need 150 times 0,01 =1,5 m3(cubic meter). If it is going to be 5 cm, 5 times that. More specific i can't get, because i wouldn't know the formula you are going to use.
Depends as well if you have a lot of dents in the walls that are present now. You're probably going to use a very straight piece of wood, i usually use a aluminium ruler of 2 meters. You lay it flat on the wall and measure to the wall every ten cm amongst that ruler, then you take the average. If you do this at different places you get an idea of the amount of filling you need to do to get the wall filled flat
I usually put a lot of my material in a straight line on the wall from up to down, push the ruler into it and use the level to get it level. You kind of wriggle the ruler in. On both sides the material which sticks out you wipe it off, You do this every rulerwidth minus 10 cm along the wall. Then you've got some measurement lines to work with on the wall. Then you fill it in exaggerated in between those lines. By that time your vertical perfect lines will have dried a bit, then you use the ruler to level it out between the standing level lines. You easily see where some extra is needed.
I hope this makes sense to you! I totally understand if it doesn't though.
3 days ago
My soil is acidy pour granite soil. Alkaline is said to be better for them. I must be lucky to have found a good variety!
Cold is more of a problem though, although it says here they're working on cold hardy varieties.

cold hardy to zone 5

They love to be with their back against a wall, it retains heat, they love heat, rocky soil, good drainage.
If you get one of these cold hardy rosemarys, try them as i describe, they'll probably flourish, then it's easy to propagate them and try them in other places as well. It's sad to buy a lot of them try them everywhere and lose them.
Getting strains that are suited to your area is key, many people fail to grasp that. They spend a thousand dollars on cheap plants that will never work in their area.
3 days ago
I trim it quite a bit, it's right next to the door so it can't get too much out of control there. I make rosemary infused oil for balms for muscle ache and cook it for hydrosols, so i use it a lot, that's why it doesn't flower all over as well.
You see where my index finger is? i Cut it there and then it grows more vigorous down the stem.
3 days ago