Tyler Ludens wrote:The conversations I've noticed are among people with acreage, who are homesteading, ranching, farming. They are the ones I see pushing Zone 5 away to some other place, not on their land. In many cases they are the ones most capable of rewilding many acres of land, but may have a philosophical issue with the concept.
Tyler Ludens wrote:Another thread about wildness and permaculture: https://permies.com/t/56225/permaculture-projects/Mollison-Permaculture-Zones-happened-Zone
Tyler Ludens wrote:I've noticed a little drift in permaculture zones, away from Mollison's original conception, a trend toward moving the zones of human influence outward until there is no zone in which human use is not the primary function, that is, turning Zone 5 into Zone 4, and thereby eliminating Zone 5.
In the Designer's Manual, Mollison discusses the Zones in terms of information and ethics... ...
Mollison describes Zone 5 in this way: "We characterise this zone as the natural, unmanaged environment used for occasional foraging, recreation, or just let be. This is where we learn the rules that we try to apply elsewhere."
Ralph Kettell wrote:It is interesting that you mention snags in your post today as we just cut up two very long ones into logs for the base of the hugel bed we are building. They will make nice water sponges with lots of bacteria and fungi living in them currently.
As for re-wilding we are still in a de-wilding phase. We have way more wild than non-wild area. However, one aspect of keeping it wild is that we feel like we moved into the woods which are replete with wild life. The animals were here first and we do not feel like we have the right to Willy nilly displace them or kill them. I have a love hate relationship with an adorable but very hungry ground hog. As part of re-wilding I am going to plant a garden bed for him to eat and hopefully mostly keep him out of our beds. Time will tell just how successful it will be. Meanwhile we are building much better fences around the main gardens which is not precisely re-wilding.
Nicole Alderman wrote:Our neighbors became too busy for their chickens, and so we adopted them and took their coop/run to our place. Of course, none of us had a truck. It was me, my husband, my teenager neighbor and her mom. We pushed the coop onto their trailer and tied it to our John Deer riding lawnmower with a chain. My husband drove and the three of us ladies pulled and pushed to keep the coop on the trailer and relatively balanced down about 1/2 a block of gravel road. We all wished we had a camera, because it was so redneck. But, we did it!
Tj Jefferson wrote:Saws (any tool really) are two things, design and materials.
Devin Lavign wrote:So for a homesteader who might want to get a chance to use one of these saws, or have limited use for such a powerful saw but an immediate need, a cheap option that could get them a saw they might not be able to afford otherwise could be highly useful.