Annie Lochte wrote:.. Where I live the biting insects are a huge consideration for 4-5 months of the year... When I run out of repel and citronella oil it'll be tough. I have read up on natural repellants an tried some but nothing yet that really works like the deet/citronella.
Cristo Balete wrote:All I am trying to say is that this original poster is suggesting kluging together two things, two solar electricity things, intentionally to avoid it being to code, to avoid it being a proper and safe system, to avoid taking the bigger picture into consideration. avoid taking the landlady's dwelling into consideration, or taking the grid into consideration. When dealing with electricity all of that is really important.
People who don't know about solar may think that this person is telling them, all you need is a panel, take a gizmo like the one in the picture, and you can run your stuff off one one panel, no matter what the stuff is. People might think they don't have to know about electricity, they don't have to know about DC and AC. What if somebody thinks everything you need is built into the panel? I've seen that in forums all over the place.
I didn't mean this to question anyone's system, or any situation's code, or anything like that.
Cristo Balete wrote:Doug, so you've probably got 23 microinveters, one for each panel? No batteries involved?
Not sure where you are, but DC disconnects, and AC disconnects are the code where I am. The fire department and the county require it. When I've had to work on panels, or work on batteries, like replacing them, the disconnect boxes are really great to have for safety reasons.
I've used my solar setup for 20 years, it's using batteries, not tied to the grid, so the controller keeps track of everything when it comes to the state of the batteries, and lets me know that all of the panels are working.
kelly purdue wrote:So if one wanted to generate power just under the normal usage is there an easy way to monitor that? I guess I want to see how many watts are always being used at any moment in my house, not average usage or peak usage.
Chris Kott wrote:
Johan Thorbecke wrote:Often you hear people that they can't install solar because they rent or because the local power monopoly has problems with it. Renting a house doesn't mean you have to forgo solar because the landlord isn't cooperating. You can still cover a lot of your baseload in a discrete way without anyone finding out with only 1 or 2 panels.
At the moment I'm renting short term but I have two solar panels, one facing east and one facing west. By doing this instead of a peak generation midday you're smoothing it out over the whole day.
Installation is dead simple. plug the panel in the micro inverter and plug the micro inverter in a socket. That's it. Keep in mind of course that the socket is out of the weathers way. This setup generates between 100-300W constantly on a sunny day, depending on the time of day. Not enough to cover large stuff like an AC but it takes quite a chunk out of your usage and your bill.
Again, in the aforementioned setup, panel plugs into inverter, inverter plugs into wall. No hole in walls, no wires through windows, no nothing. And the idea is sneaky solar, or guerilla solar, if you will. The idea is that you're flying under the radar, so it is presumed that one would take all necessary steps, most of which have been mentioned above, to avoid anything that would cause power companies, authority figures, or the Department of Making You Sad from noticing that you're producing your own power. That means either controlling your usage such that none feeds back to the grid by means of diverting excess to household storage or simply having a generating cap.
One idea I have thought about since I became aware of UPS systems, and even more so since the advent of the concept of the Tesla Power Wall (which I think is a terrific concept whoever popularises it or makes it, be it a big company or homesteaders with kit packages) is the idea of using the UPS or Power Wall as a primary energy source during peak usage, and then charging when rates drop in the evening. This is only some slight savings for homeowners, but if your business relied on using power during peak hours, it could represent serious operational cost savings.
This, however, is neither sneaky, nor geared towards renters, unless somebody has an idea for a semi-portable (or at least movable) Power wall. Though it occurs to me that there might be an intersection here between home solar and home electric vehicle charging. I mean, the electric car is just a battery bank on wheels with some seats in it.
Great conversation, though. I look forward to seeing where it goes.