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Giving up

 
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6 years into my search for a true partnership and love and I'm on the verge of giving up. I'm curious how many others have given up on searching for a loving partnership and how homesteading has been for them. It seems extremely hard if not impossible to homestead solo. But I am leaning towards this and curious how others fair alone, without help and without companionship. I recognize that I fit in no where and it's time to just accept that. I have always sought to be the true authentic me, but in the end it leaves me far too different than anyone else out there.
 
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Give up your mind as to thinking you need someone. The neededness can or is an issue. It's like fear, other sense it.

It's best to set one self up. Seems most women are looking for independence. And that done seem to include a relationship in the normal ways.

Most are online looking, for they are jot out and about looking locally for life is busy and one is working.

So we go online seeking the world for someone that may match one's lifestyle, or close enough that one can have or start a relationship.

Do I need a partner. No
Would I like a partner, yes.
Should I have a partner. Only God knows and if it happens. Of great. If not, or great. I still will ne happy and content.

Sometimes the things we wish for, don't aways work out as we wish.

Keep working away. And be observant to those around us. And start with a coffee or a walk. And build up from there.

Maybe Love or Partner is local 🤔

 
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I'd suggest signing up for Jiu-jitsu classes for a while. Not to meet the girls there, they will all be able to beat you at jiu-jitsu and are there to train. You will learn a lot about yourself and your limits, you will get excellent cardio and functional strength, you will will fit in by way of sharing the same techniques as the rest of the class, you will stand out by finding the techniques that work best for you. If the coaches or people from the gym invite you out, say yes. You'll find yourself walking around feeling differently and thinking differently, work becomes easier as you think back on your old mentality and when things felt harder, you might find yourself drifting off into thought about the things you want to try in class later. Good luck.
 
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I hear you. Only thing is, you are wrong about fitting in. You being a member here proves you fit in with a great many people.  Don't stress about finding a mate. You could have an instant family in joining a makerspace, or church. Think outside this boxed-in expectation you have set upon yourself.
 
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Good topic.

I've been off grid homesteading since 2008 and as a single father of two girls from 2011 until last year when the youngest started life out on her own.  Now it's just me and while it can be done it is tough. Even when the girls were here the last few years as teens they did very little to help but that was okay as they were following their own dreams and ambitions.

Since my youngest moved away to college last fall I decided to start looking for someone of the fairer persuasion to share this life with. Hopefully first as friends working toward a common goal then maybe more. To be honest I haven't had much luck but that's okay. I have no problem being alone and would much much rather be alone than with the wrong person again!

I say never give up on finding the right person for yourself but go on with life and don't worry about it and it  will find you when and if the time is right. I know that's a lot harder for those of you who can't handle being alone but you just have to try because believe me being alone is way better than being in a bad relationship!

For myself for now I've started looking for someone to offer free housing to in exchange for help around the place. While I can almost maintain what I've built here over the years I can not go any farther forward without some help and I do still want to march on towards being sustainable and thrive!
 
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George Said: "I'd suggest signing up for Jiu-jitsu classes for a while. Not to meet the girls there, they will all be able to beat you at jiu-jitsu and are there to train."

Funny story. After years of training in MMA at various clubs, I stumbled into a Jiu Jitsu school. 10th Planet. Totally legit. Anyway, I rolled with the students and wasn't able to tap out anyone. That wasn't a problem for me as I was there as a student. However, here were two of my most informative experiences: First, after not being able to get any of the dudes to tap out, during the open mat, I encounter a female, about 115 lbs, and maybe 5 ft. Real sweet looking. I'm like- I'll just use my weight and strength, should be enough. Ha Ha Ha!

She got me to tap out about 4 times in the 5 minute clock based on technique. Most memorable was when she had my arm extended; Her legs around my legs in some sort of lock, and my face buried in her Netherlands- And I'm thinking: This should be sexy but I could die cause she's chocking me out. Of course I tapped. For the record, as a student, I didn't suffer an ego problem. I was there to learn and to this day, have fond memories of that lesson; But certainly nothing erotic. No, not when you're getting chocked out and fading to black.

Next up, same night: 15 year old high school student. The kid's just smiling at me when we met after the last 5 min clock beep. Okay. Well, now this I should get the tap. Wrong. He has me tapping out about 5 times in 5 minutes. I out weighed him by 50 lbs, and I'm sure I was stronger. Still, no ego problem. Just fond memories.

Yeah. Jiu Jitsu is cool. But in in any endeavor I would suggest: Be a student. As a learner, you always have the grace of being a half full cup and the understanding: Hey, I'm just here to learn. You can't put anything into a full cup, and you'll be stuck with a broken ego if there's no room to pour knowledge into the glass.
 
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Craig Lewis wrote:Give up your mind as to thinking you need someone. The neededness can or is an issue. It's like fear, other sense it.

It's best to set one self up. Seems most women are looking for independence. And that done seem to include a relationship in the normal ways.

Most are online looking, for they are jot out and about looking locally for life is busy and one is working.

So we go online seeking the world for someone that may match one's lifestyle, or close enough that one can have or start a relationship.

Do I need a partner. No
Would I like a partner, yes.
Should I have a partner. Only God knows and if it happens. Of great. If not, or great. I still will ne happy and content.

Sometimes the things we wish for, don't aways work out as we wish.

Keep working away. And be observant to those around us. And start with a coffee or a walk. And build up from there.

Maybe Love or Partner is local 🤔



Need is never a good adviser for making any decisions, be it a job, a relocation or a partner. Need imo comes from fear which is a low vibrational emotion and comes from a place of despair.

So far it has not served me good either. Nobody seems to be able to relocate offgrid with their partner/family (i "needed" some help on the land)  or even been able to buy me off so I could reassess what next step in live should be. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Independence and a relationship need NOT be mutually exclusive imo, boundaries and personnal space is key.

However finding a +1 from age 40+ is a tricky mission as we all seem to have our quirks and set of beliefs which we are fairly attached to.

We all seem willing to find company BUT have really set the bar high. Frankly I agree that better alone that with the wrong company but gosh I miss "community" and like minded around, be it romantic or otherwise. Aren't we told humans are social beings? then why does it seem we are all so anti social these days?

Enjoying the summer here in Portugal with my 4 legged companion, grateful for what I do have.

Never give up❤❤🙏🙏🥰🥰

Elia
 
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Craig Lewis wrote:Give up your mind as to thinking you need someone. The neededness can or is an issue. It's like fear, other sense it.

It's best to set one self up. Seems most women are looking for independence. And that done seem to include a relationship in the normal ways.

Most are online looking, for they are jot out and about looking locally for life is busy and one is working.

So we go online seeking the world for someone that may match one's lifestyle, or close enough that one can have or start a relationship.

Do I need a partner. No
Would I like a partner, yes.
Should I have a partner. Only God knows and if it happens. Of great. If not, or great. I still will ne happy and content.

Sometimes the things we wish for, don't aways work out as we wish.

Keep working away. And be observant to those around us. And start with a coffee or a walk. And build up from there.

Maybe Love or Partner is local 🤔



Where in my post did it say I needed someone? I didn't. I simply asked how others that were truly homesteading alone were fairing.
 
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I haven't given up at all, but my search is mostly a passive one. And by no means is this a limiting factor to my creation of paradise. Yes, it would be so much easier to create with a partner, but the impulse to create is too great to wait. I feel the Energy of Love can work alone through one person and give super strength, and then by the acts of creation one's beloved will be magnetized.

Don't give up! And don't feel alone. We never are alone.
 
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Mike Bettis wrote:6 years into my search for a true partnership and love and I'm on the verge of giving up. I'm curious how many others have given up on searching for a loving partnership and how homesteading has been for them. It seems extremely hard if not impossible to homestead solo. But I am leaning towards this and curious how others fair alone, without help and without companionship. I recognize that I fit in no where and it's time to just accept that. I have always sought to be the true authentic me, but in the end it leaves me far too different than anyone else out there.



I could've written this very paragraph.
I do have the sense that I was supposed to find my someone. But haven't been lucky in that department.
Currently homesteading & permaculture-ing on my own...well, me and 2 overly large shepherds, rabbits, ducks and assorted chickens, gardens, guilds, food trees...
I am lucky to be strong and healthy and still able now (in my early 60s). And I'm busy setting up systems so I can keep homesteading long into the future. What I miss most is someone to share all the beautiful and amazing things with!  Sometimes I've offered internships for the local Ag college youngsters: I get to teach new skills and get help with projects that need more strength than I have!

I feel very different as well... and others confirm this.
I was raised very differently, moved away from society in my early 20s (living on intentional community in a yurt on the high desert), and gave up trying to fit in long ago. But sometimes it goes beyond this. For example, I'll explain my differences to someone, and later folks are astonished to discover I was serious.  Example: I'm not into consumerism. Shopping is horrid: I avoid it at all costs. Trip to town maybe only once every 2-3 months. Reuse, repurpose, repair, upcycle, grow or make it myself where I can! After chatting with a potential date for weeks who stated similar preferences, on Date #1, he wanted to drive to the city and go shopping? So I gave it a try...I had my very first experience in a "Costco". Yipes. Definitely will never go back there.

One thing I've noticed in the past few years is that people's tolerance for difference seems less than it used to be (while at the same time there's lip service to more inclusivity?).
I think because many folks spend most of their time interacting with other humans REMOTELY, our skills for navigating relationships face-to-face may be declining. Just a hunch.
I don't have a cell phone, so I find it weird when someone sitting across from me spends time glued to the screen instead of conversing. I guess I am weird!

On homesteading solo, one thing that really helps me is this mantra "There is no deadline. I'll get to it when I get to it."
 
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It's definitely a bit tricky, I'm three years in myself and fiding a person is harder than I thought. I'd say take some time for yourself to recharge if you want to continue searching and go from there. But don't let it wear you down.
 
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Hello how are you? Giving up, Orr thinking of giving up?
I hope somewhere along the way, you find peace and know that happiness begins with you, you have to find a medium and start from. It is human nature to seek out companionship etc.
I'd love to chat and get to know..
Thanks
Anna
annalaowilliams@gmail.com
 
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Sadly, yes. I think I have given up on finding someone who feels the same way as I do about living the same type of lifestyle that I had in mind for myself.  It's been a hard realization but I think I'm finally tired of putting on the chipper, positive attitude that I've held pretending that it was fine and eventually it would happen. I don't see it in my future anymore as I've just never met someone with the same goals and vision.

Now I just live my days working in my tiny garden, cooking from scratch and buying almost everything else from small family farms to help support them.

 
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So happy to hear from you. And I'm happy you're moving on just being who you are...sometimes that's the best!
If you ever need to chat, or...I'm here
208 220 5702
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Just sharing  a thought.

Focus on becoming your own partner at this time.You still got time walk in the light.  Dust your self of try again but go by flow of  with love put love in to yourself.
Become the partner you seek , date yourself , romance your life , make a routine , make some new friends , ask what you believe for guidance but do the rest , get in nature , cut cords of things of the past and enter the present time. Be the best  assistant in your life.  Love and relationship is the last thing to study yourself. Love yourself when the time is right. Create a beautiful life for yourself. Write down your goals and dreams , start saying better things about yourself , reserve mind set to only what good vibe is , Try to get out more go on adventure.

You deserve a slow, uncomplicated love. No rush. Sure and Stable. Consistent .You deserve the love. You deserve someone that's sure of you. that you're sure of.

Relationship is really the last thing on ones mind. Just be my friend, be my peace , Everything else will fall in place if it's meant to be. Will come unexpected when you least expected it just keep going keep busy but make time.

Keep looking not for a person but for your passion, Your Love, Your Courage, Your goals, your Dreams., your happiness, yourself. keep looking. Explore your worth before you explore another. know your worth. Know yourself only then will you know what you need over what you want. You need yourself to become your own.


Dance , Sing , read , to each other , breathe together - communicate. Don't count on slex to be the door to intimacy. It's the other way around first to develop intimacy skills . Then make love to enjoy them.We all things have a story. And no matter how much work you've done on yourself. We all snap back together. So be easy on yourself. Growth is a dance. Not a light switch.Some just want good company, a person to vibe with , converse with and laugh without in a rush. Start off simple , and let the rest find itself.


Not all moments of intimacy are sexual. Sometimes it's just about mutual nurturance.

There are two places you need to go often:The place that heals you.
The place that inspires you.

Be with someone who will take care of you.
Not materialistically,
but take care of your soul, your well being. your heart, and everything that's you.

It's rare that you find someone with enough emotional and mental patience and maturity to work through the stuff with. Like actually communicating, and losing their ego because they value the connection more than their pride, You gotta leave your ego at the door in love. It's a must.Feeling safe in someone's energy is a different type of intimacy. That feeling of peace and protection is really underrated


first meeting just meeting to see if you have a connection see if you both click have conversation on the same page just keep  simple in first meeting then if you both click then make into a date. If it's not the same, be friends or wish them the best.  Will save you the time. .  Don't get hooked til you know it's right take your time. If you click then date but keep growing the bond court them.  But get in their mind and soul, read them, find what poetry they like, what color they like.  But when it is a date,  place should cost an arm and leg but still nice to go sight seeing , going on a hike. The feminine one  do want to feel safe and protected so this is one way of winning hearts.  Holding hands, going to the park and looking at nature is even nice.


You will need to open more doors location more distance meet in the middle travel back and forth and meet few times in year before anything takes good year to get to know anyone you want make sure they are the same as online and the same as you meet they treat you good and act the same will take public not hide you.

If you don't like the life you are living write a new one.
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I have been looking for the same amount of time, almost six years as well.  Always been the black of society my entire life, never really been able to fit in with the crowd, tried several different ways to make myself "appealing" to people in order to have some sort of chance in connecting with people. In 2019, I made a promise to myself that I won't conform my own unique personality(using common sense, critical thinking, wanting to live off-grid, have a homestead, standing up for not only my rights but other's as well, etc.) anymore because I learned what true self-respect is and if someone wants to treat me as a human being with feelings and emotions...I'll give them a shot in getting to know me.
 
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You are trying too hard.  Once you are comfortable in your own skin, alone, your lifemate will appear, but maybe not immediately.  The important thing is to be happy with yourself, so you don’t feel you need anyone to complete you.  But do get out there, go to social events that resonate with you and meet lots of people.  Can’t have too many friends, can we?
 
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I know how that feels, im one of those one off outcast types too. Ive noticed from youtubers ive followed, and life in general, people that follow their passion, tend to find others. With the one caveat, if you dont share it publicly in some way, youtube videos, teaching etc, it doesnt get you anywhere. I have no idea what your goals in life are, but with mine, sitting around getting used to being alone and comfortable, would only end in being alone forever. To some extent you have to put yourself out there, and in the meantime make the friends, and live the life that fulfills you. Easier said than done as a one off outcast. I guess its just about increasing the odds, and taking care of yourself in the meantime.
Best wishes.
 
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It took me 10 years to find the right one. And that was a total accident.
 
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I think it is totally possible to homestead solo and there are many on here doing it alone. I can't even imagine going back to "normal" life at this point, so if it means living solo for the long haul, that's ok with me! It would be nice to have someone/others, but maybe we are all too spread out around the world and value our solitude so highly, and that is just the way it is. I am super grateful for the blessings of this life!
 
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Meli Mot wrote:I think it is totally possible to homestead solo and there are many on here doing it alone. I can't even imagine going back to "normal" life at this point, so if it means living solo for the long haul, that's ok with me! It would be nice to have someone/others, but maybe we are all too spread out around the world and value our solitude so highly, and that is just the way it is. I am super grateful for the blessings of this life!




I agree, one can homestead solo. It is douable. However, for a woman alone it is a bit more challenging.... everytime i need work done, be it a tractor, or generator service or water pump inspection I get harassed by the traders... this last one is still using my number to ask me out (when they realise they have no chance they get disgruntled and i never get service again, and they slander me with all sorts of lies)... If I was to do it all over again I would look for a community. I know a lady in ZA and she is in the same situation....something to keep in mind for ya ladies out there (unless you can master electrics, plumbing and the like) If not a partner a community is one's best bet imo. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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I’m a little unsure of how to use the site, but I won’t apologize! I can’t inagine good folks would put me down here. Perhaps guide me if needed? I’d love to join this community! It’s time- I’m ready to homestead. Burned myself unwittingly quite a few times in life, leading me to raise a son alone last 13 years. Alas, times change, and he’s off to boarding school and probably to dads after that. The latter is open for now. Living in the city isn’t for me anymore. Babysitting grown folks for admin work has also lost its appeal. I haven’t experienced much in the way of homesteading- I’m 37, fairly abled and just starved for the next adventure. I grew up picking weeds what seemed my entire pre teen n teen life, in between digging holes, helping mom fix the house, church, school, regular work, etc. i like earning my keep in some ways, and I don’t understand the surrounding laziness and lack of empathy and accountability in this gorgeous country . I’m considering embarking on this journey alone, for I don’t know how to find like minded persons who would jive with me. I’m great peoples, inquisitive, aware, and absolutely believe in a higher power, Gd, the divine. I’m on a great journey of intense self awareness, understanding of the world from a different viewpoint, and eager to gain more wisdom, new experiences. How neat it would be to join forces w another- gal or man, if a true man. There’s no reason we should do this alone. If ever comes a time when the world reaches its end, there’s just too many who hold all the values of the world n hate the ones who find value in greatness from within. Anyone? Would love a little direction, guidance, perhaps a crack at a potential connection
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I think I can understand how you feel, even having been married for ten years now. I worked as a seasonal backcountry ranger and outdoor educator through my twenties and early thirties, and I was moving all the time. This many any relationships long distance way too often, and made for what felt like long periods of being alone, literally and figuratively even in crowds, with a mix of content self realization and deep depression about it. This applied to friendships and romantic partners. One thing that helped me meet great people in both groups was doing service work in nature (or anything one might find intrinsic value in), and taking related courses like a Wilderness First Responder course, or a teaching class for naturalists. It is also not the place I’d recommend looking to meet a lot of women, but I met my wife while hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. I think, ideally, we meet and connect with the best people for us when we dive into what makes us our best selves. I hope that happens for you, and until it does, for the intrinsic joy of following your path.

I also think a dog can be a great partner too, and is an under rated social catalyst!
 
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Mike Bettis wrote:6 years into my search for a true partnership and love and I'm on the verge of giving up. I'm curious how many others have given up on searching for a loving partnership and how homesteading has been for them. It seems extremely hard if not impossible to homestead solo. But I am leaning towards this and curious how others fair alone, without help and without companionship. I recognize that I fit in no where and it's time to just accept that. I have always sought to be the true authentic me, but in the end it leaves me far too different than anyone else out there.


So much is said about what is not meant in this post, so let me bypass all of it and get straight to the question. I recently purchased five acres. I’m 70 years young and feel like I can handle 5 acres. First order of business was a septic system on the cheap. According to the state I’m in, having one is a must, especially if I am off-grid. To me it was a complete waste, but rules are rules.
Second is a dwelling. I’m in process of building an earth shelter in dome shape. This will afford me the luxury of having part of my garden atop my dwelling and the shape will hold up under the pressure of whatever Mother Nature throws at it.  
Third is relationships. I have traveled far and wide and have formed bonds of lasting friendships with diverse families. We keep in touch and, when summer is at its peak, they will bring their tents and families to help harvest, can, preserve, dry, and stash all the goodies for the next few years.
I have thought about chickens, but decided on khaki ducks. I thought about sheep, but I may get Nigerian Dwarves instead. I have lived this life before, love my own company, and, as long as I don’t take on too much, I should be able to handle it all by myself until I pass it on to the one who proves to love it also.
 
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Never give up!!!

I have the mindset that everything happens for a reason.  It's meant to - even if you don't understand it right now.

While I put up a post to find someone, I'm more or less looking for a companion.  If there is love there, great.  If not, I would love to have a great and meaningful friendship.  I have friends who I love deeply.  And yet I see so many people in a love-less relationship (or marriage).

Water, food and safety keep you alive.  A loving relationship keeps you happy.

I have given up on a partner.  I am looking for happiness.  If it comes along as a friend or lover, either will be cherished.

Best of luck to you.

Christine
 
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https://youtu.be/vN0gaXS8dQE?si=PPiKu6NTwuPdpBGf

I posted a link to a song that I think express what a lot of people may be thinking.
It's  by a group called Passenger and the song is Survivors. Many people here are following their own path and have to a large degree unplugged from the mainstream. I think that makes it difficult to make connections. I think that's what this site is about, making connections. Giving up is just not who we are. Be encouraged we are all in it together.
 
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This is a great thread.
I can totally relate to Mike's feelings.  AND ..I also understand the need to embrace the journey for whatever it brings.
I have had both partnership and solo time during my 20 years of homestead life.. both have there challenges and benefits.. currently in the solo mode and hopeful to be able to share this experience with another some time AND accepting that this journey is essential for me and it may be solo..
I couldn't ever leave this lifestyle even if it means doing it solo..
 Thanks everyone for sharing their perspectives..we are not alone..in that we are all doing this.
 
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Personals sites are often rather futile for people who are seeking long term real relationships and true love.  Sure, you might be able to find quick hookups, flings and affairs with people who aren't serious or who are just pursuing whatever self-serving interests they can get for themselves, and will use whoever they can along the way to attain what they want, but if you want something of substance that is real, meaningful and long lasting with someone, the problem is that who is going to move?!  If someone can easily just up and move to you, often times those kinds of people have a history of not keeping the same dwelling, job, car, location, and other things in their life for long periods of time, and so if that's the way they are with all that stuff, then let's be honest and realistic here, it's probably unlikely that they are suddenly going to be any different when it comes to how long they keep their lovers then either!  You might get them for a good time, but probably not for a long time!  Meanwhile, if someone is more stable and established in life, and in the ways they go about things, they probably don't make big changes quickly or easily, which means they are probably more likely to be the kind of person who builds and stays in places and relationships for longer times, if not for life, and that's the kind of person you want, if a real relationship is what you seek!  However, the problem is that most of the people like that, who would make the best partners, they aren't likely to ever move, because they already have land, projects, kids, pets, houses, family, businesses, jobs, and other things that keep them from ever going anywhere else, as it doesn't make sense for them to do so, because for them to sell it all and move, unless the place they are moving to already has all that, it would now cost 5-10 times as much, and take another 5-10 years of work in a new place, just to get back to the level where they already are at, and so if they are going to get with someone, then that other person will have to move to them, but then like I said, if someone can easily just up and move, they may very well not make for good long term relationship material, so it's a helluva conundrum!  And most often, it makes these singles sites turn out to be rather futile!  It often times leaves hundreds, if not thousands of men having to compete for the attention of one of the few small handfuls of women who are actually real, and not just some fake account made by some guy in a basement in Nigeria somewhere, and who have a good amount of the desirable attributes, skills and abilities that all the men are seeking, and which are especially important in the homesteading and prepping world, making the chances for most of those guys to ever actually get one of those woman to be extremely slim, much less find one who wants a real relationship and is truly willing to do what it takes to make it happen and make it work!  After all, if a woman has hundreds or thousands of options, it gets real easy for her to fall into the trap of sorting thru the heap and then making her choices based on self-serving things!  Whichever guy she thinks will be the best at something, or will provide her with the most of one thing or another, or the most of many things, is who she will choose almost every time.  Her choice has nothing to do with love, it's about selfish attainment.  And then when she gets what she wants out of the deal and he gets what he wants, then they call it love?!!  What a joke!  That's not love, it's a total sham!  True love and real relationships are few and far between these days.  Many people are just seeking to make some kind of a tradeoff or exchange in attempt to maximize the amount of self-serving interests that they can attain, and then if that works and goes well for them, and they get what they want, then maybe they'll call it "love" and think, pretend, act, or claim that's what it is for awhile, because it serves a purpose to do so, but when people base their relations on whatever tradeoffs they make and whatever amount of ease, comfort, convenience, safety, security, stability, fun, entertainment, lust, sex, pleasure, luxury, geographic location, kids, pets, houses, housekeeping, void-filling, social status, "living the dream" lifestyle, or whatever other self-serving things that they get out of it, then it's only a matter of time before that falls apart or becomes a nightmare instead, because it isn't sustainable for both people to always and forever live that way and keep up their end of the deal, and so then when things go awry, it's usually then just off to the next person, where the names and faces might change, but the game is the same, and they repeat the same thing all over again, and it becomes little more than just a perpetual revolving door of lovers, where they quickly become little more than just names and faces from long ago, unless someone happens to end up getting pregnant along the way!  For anyone to find anyone else who will truly do the right things for the right reasons, who has their priorities in proper order, and who will continue to do and keep things that way for life, and who will choose YOU, and continue to choose you for the rest of their life, rather than choose God only knows what or who else at some point instead, that's not even like finding a needle in a haystack anymore, it's like finding a very particular and special microfiber!!!  The odds of which are less than winning the lottery, which is 1 in 302.6 million.  It's more like 1 in 7 billion!  If the whole charade makes you mad, disheartened or frustrated, I uhhh ...... understand!
 
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I completely understand this feeling. I've lived off-grid by myself, it was getting to the point some projects are completely impossible without a little help and I hate asking for help. But I found myself without a choice, mostly for safety. I found people whom said that they love living off-grid, a few even from this very site. So far I've had people out here who only made my life off-grid more stressful and harder. I've had tools damaged, tools stolen and even a tractor stolen. The stress and growing financial burdens have forced my to give up. I just sold off all my chickens, goats and horses.
Now I have a property that will sadly soon sit vacant. It hurts to have a dream and others make your dream impossible to continue pursuing.

Good Luck to you.
 
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Yeah... on the verge of giving up here, too.  Maybe we really do have to go to the other side of the planet to find a woman who is interested in a real partnership.  I dunno.  In terms of living off grid, I'm having an excellent time.  It would be nice to have a woman here, but I'm doing pretty well on my own.

Personally, I feel a little ripped off by feminism.  I don't even think it was started by women.  ...and I certainly don't think it's for women even though it's promoted to be.  The entire idea of families has been destroyed in North America.

....and still... I keep a little hope.
 
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Sometimes the best things happen when we let go and give it up to whatever we believe in.  I've left a lot of things over many years in the hands of my go-to belief and it almost always - no, actually always - works out.  Your are strong.  I'll say this again and I will many times, my Daddy always told me, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."  Hang in there, do what needs to be done, think outside the box and it will all fall into place. Best wishes and many blessings.
 
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Jay Mansel wrote:

Personally, I feel a little ripped off by feminism.  I don't even think it was started by women.  ...and I certainly don't think it's for women even though it's promoted to be.  The entire idea of families has been destroyed in North America.



I remember back in the '70s when the Equal Rights Amendment came up for a vote.  I was in grade school, old enough that we had some awareness of what was going on in the world.  I remember the boys posturing and mouthing about it all.  I remember thinking, and saying, that I didn't need a law to tell me that I could do anything I wanted as a girl.  I was raised that way, by a strong daddy.  I wish I could convey that to the "feminists."  There's no need to be defensive.  Women should just do their thing.  Nobody's going to stop them.
 
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