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Alison Freeth-Thomas "heninfrance"
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July 31, 2009, 02:27:03 AM

Before getting our chooks I read a fair bit and many places said that they needed to be dusted with mite powder almost constantly.  I wasn't keen on this idea as chemical dusting an animal 'just because' doesn't seem right to me.  But how do you know if the chooks DO have mites?  Where do the mites come from?  And is there another solution for preventing or getting rid of mites that is not chemical?

Plus what about worms?  Read about that too but not done anything.  How do I know if they've got them?  Same questions as above really.

How do folk get organic eggs when all these treatments are 'de rigeur' so to speak?
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Leah Sattler
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July 31, 2009, 07:46:13 AM

I ahve never dusted my chickens for lice or wormed them. except for a few losers I bought I have had no trouble getting eggs. I have treated for leg mites once. I doused their legs in listerine. since though I have realized that only a few of them have trouble with leg mites. others seem unfazed. I just don't worry about it anymore. I suppsoe if they were in closely confined conditions or I was raising fancy show chickens or keeping particular breeders because of their outstanding traits it would have to be different. as it sits I get a few more laying hens each year.  some people may disagree with me but putting much effort or money or especially pesticides into my chickens would totally negate my purpose in having them so I choose to give them the basics and after that they are on their own. I have some chickens that are going on 5 years old. they are mixed breed, free range and raise chicks every year. descendants of my original banty type chickens.

providing a dusting area with DE is supposed to help with lice. I think you can see the lice or their waste depending on the color of the feathers. 
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August 08, 2009, 07:42:22 AM

I'm currently treating some rescued hens that have leg mites by spraying their legs with canola/rapeseed cooking spray... very easy to apply, suffocates the mites and is completely non toxic.

I find the feather lice to be very dependent on humidity...   when it's dry their dust bathing seems to keep the lice away.
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Leah Sattler
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August 09, 2009, 08:54:03 AM

I have also heard of tea tree oil being used succesfully. smothering or dehydrating the lice (I'm pretty sure that is what the listerine does)seem to be a non toxic easy way to deal with the problem of leg mites.
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alyssa
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September 02, 2009, 07:06:21 AM

Vaseline (or similar, thick creamy waterproof mix, like beeswax & oil cream) is supposed to suffocate leg mites.  Apparently red mites live in the housing, especially theroof & so you need to blast this at the same time as treating.  Diatomaceous earth powder is a natural way to treat for mites.  Several brands available, try ebay!  You know if they have mights because they peck/scratch each other orgo broody, then give up after a few days.
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Joel Hollingsworth
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September 02, 2009, 01:09:49 PM

Listerine probably poisons the mites with natural essential oils, same as it does vs. bacteria.

Did you know it was invented to sterilize surgical instruments, and was only marketed as mouthwash later on?
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alyssa
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September 03, 2009, 02:24:51 AM

Listerine probably poisons the mites with natural essential oils, same as it does vs. bacteria.

Did you know it was invented to sterilize surgical instruments, and was only marketed as mouthwash later on?

I think it might be the alcohol content that has the sterilizing action?  Apparently rubbing alcohol immersion kills leg mites too
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Joel Hollingsworth
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zone 10: Oakland, CA


September 03, 2009, 11:43:02 AM

No, the alcohol content of Listerine is not nearly enough to have any detrimental effect on bacteria.

The alcohol is merely there to dissolve essential oils (which are noticeably more toxic than alcohol...think how tough it is to get stuff growing in eucaliptus waste, vs. wine marc!) in the water.
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Elfriede B
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September 23, 2009, 11:08:46 AM

put some wood ashes in the area where they take their dust baths.
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