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Lash Something 10' or Longer to a Vehicle - PEP BB homesteading.sand.little.lash

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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Homesteading. (Note that this BB is part of a four-part choose your own adventure called Little List. You must complete four Badge Bits in the Little List.)

In this Badge Bit, you will lash something that is ten feet or longer onto a vehicle.



Some related articles on lashing:
  - Cargo Tie-Down Methods
  - How to Use Ratchet Straps Like a Pro
  - Securing the Load: A Guide to Safe and Legal Transportation of Cargo and Equipment
  - How to Use Ratchet Straps
  - How to Secure Cargo in a Pickup Truck
  - How to Roof Rack Anything













To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - You must attach something ten foot or longer to a vehicle
  - It must be clearly secure enough to safely handle highway speeds

Provide proof of the following as pictures or video (<2 mins):
  - Before the cargo has been attached to your vehicle
  - After the cargo has been attached to your vehicle
  - Clarity on how it is attached
  - Vehicle and cargo at a new location to demonstrate that the cargo was secure

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Ok, it's wild rice season so I need to lug my 17' canoe around.  I've used a variety of systems but this one has worked the best for me.  Close to zero wind resistance and it's not rubbing on the roof.

I have a 6' bed.  This Harbor Freight bed extender has the cross bar at 10.5'.  I need to get my welding buddy to improve the angle on the extender a bit because it can drag when going from a flat road onto an inclined driveway.  Not an issue on the road.

The canoe has an aluminum cross bar about a foot from the front.  I wrap the ratchet strap around this and then cross it over the top of the canoe and then down to the tie down hooks at the front of the bed.  This keeps the front end down and keeps it from moving side to side.  Then I rachet strap the canoe down to the bed extender.  I wrap it around the extender twice so it can't slide backwards past the "elbow" of the extender.  I use foam pads to cushion the canoe against the extender.

First location is my house, second is at the lake.
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At the lake

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When I moved into my new home I needed a dining room table.  So naturally I made one.  I went to a creative reuse center and bought a 10' x 3' piece of 3/8" acrylic sheeting.  The only problem was, how to get it home.  I won't lie, I was nervous.  I don't know if you've ever lifted a 3/8" slab of 10 x 3 acrylic, but let me tell you it is heavy.  Getting it off the car and into the house alone, so that I didn't have to eat on cardboard boxes anymore, might be the hardest physical thing I've ever done. Once I had built the table in the dining room, having to lift it back up onto its feet literally made me cry in a ball on the floor from despair.  That's how hard it was.

Anyway, onto the pictures.
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Here's a before shot of the tabletob in its retail location. Note the holes in the corners. For scale, notice the granite slab which is the size of a vanity.
Here's a before shot of the tabletob in its retail location. Note the holes in the corners. For scale, notice the granite slab which is the size of a vanity.
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The tie down took into account aerodynamics (hang off the back) with a feed from corner, hitch over roof rack, hitch over roof rack, to corner. Very taut.
The tie down took into account aerodynamics (hang off the back) with a feed from corner, hitch over roof rack, hitch over roof rack, to corner. Very taut.
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Here is a picture of the table in its new location, undamaged.
Here is a picture of the table in its new location, undamaged.
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Here is a picture of my car back home safe and sound.
Here is a picture of my car back home safe and sound.

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So there are no requirements for what kind of vehicle you use?
And also not for the weight of your load, only the length?
And no required distance you transport that load?

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Correct Inge!

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Needed to move the 20 ft latter back to the barn today, thought it would be a good time work this BB in. Latter was at the house to finish some painting and repair the roof, before the weather turns crazy, we should take it back to the barn which is on the other side of the farm. I used bungy cord on the back, a rope tie down in the front, and 2 ratchet straps to connect it two the roof rack.  
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Element Pre- Load
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Element with the load
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Rob, your table is gorgeous!  Looks like something from a design catalog.

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Here I am hauling a 16 ft long 2x12 from the store to the homestead.
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Before loading.
Before loading.
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Loaded at the store.
Loaded at the store.
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Arriving back home.
Arriving back home.

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Hmm, I think that wouldn't satisfy the spirit of the BB.  But I'll adjust the requirements a bit to require it to be securely attached...

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Attached a 12ft junkpole to a truck and moved it from basecamp to the lab. Used a trucker’s hitch instead of a ratchet strap. Only had to go two miles, but it stayed very secure.
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We went canoeing in the BWCAW this year, two days before it closed due to wildfires :(

The canoe is attached by four ratchets - front, back, and two over the middle. There are canoe foam pads protecting it from the roof of the car. It made it the 6 hour trip up and back no problem.
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Before - Mama dog is curious
Before - Mama dog is curious
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After - Mama dog senses adventure
After - Mama dog senses adventure
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Gunflint Lake! - Mama dog is romping around in the woods
Gunflint Lake! - Mama dog is romping around in the woods

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I have been hauling supplies from various stores to my home by bike for over a year. I figured out a way to carry 12ft dimensional lumber on a bike by building a yoke out of scrap wood and then lashing it to the bike. The rope loops hanging from the yoke made loading a lot easier. I would split the load in two, and add the boards one at a time through the loops on each side, laying the other end on the floor. Once all boards were loaded, I passed a strap around under the ends and then tightened, lifting both stacks at the same time, keeping everything balanced. The centre of gravity was a little too high. This wasn’t a problem at speeds over 5mph but under that, it was a little wobbly. The bike I used is a Rad Runner and it has a powerful electric motor with throttle, so this made getting up to 5mph a lot easier.



This worked well but it could be improved upon, so I’ve included my solution as well for times when I wanted lengths of up to six feet but wanted to buy longer pieces - it’s a lot cheaper this way.

My second solution was to take some tools with me including a saw. I would then break up the lumber in the car park before lashing it to my trailer.  



Cargo bikes are cool

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Note: Excellent job using a bike for this job!  You're missing one photo and the load isn't lashed down in the front (just hanging).  It would be really nice to see if it is lashed/held tight to your plywood box to show how it won't swing out away from the bike when you turn.  Please resubmit with those changes so we can approve this!

 
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Note: Excellent job using a bike for this job! You're missing one photo and the load isn't lashed down in the front (just hanging). It would be really nice to see if it is lashed/held tight to your plywood box to show how it won't swing out away from the bike when you turn. Please resubmit with those changes so we can approve this!



Fair enough - The next time I have to haul lumber, I’ll take take your advice and resubmit.

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these hung 8 feet or so out of my truck and weighed close to 400lbs, if they were not secure you would see that they would be touching the ground. I traveled on hwy 70 for over 4 hours with this, so i know it was secure. I used 2 chains and two ratchet straps. I made this same trip a week later but from STL to topeka.
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this is the material unloaded in KCMO
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these 15 foot steel roof panels had to be chained in. If they we're secured you would see them touching the ground
these 15 foot steel roof panels had to be chained in. If they we're secured you would see them touching the ground
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Part 2:

I lashed a ten foot plank to my cargo bike.

The bike is 2430mm / 8ft Total Length for reference (Bullitt Spec near the bottom)

The back of the plank is flush with the rear wheel - wide angle lens makes it look like it's further back than it is.

There's two feet extra sticking out the from where I can see it.

The straps run under the frame and well clear of the steering mechanism - see photos.

Hopefully this time, it meets with the brief otherwise I'll go and lash it to my wife's car which would be a shame.
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Here’s the receipt from Lowes with todays date and the description of the item and the address. My garage is at the back of my house which is a few miles from Lowes.
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Third time lucky . . . Well, not luck, just reading and following the instructions. And this is my fourth attempt . . .  See last picture!

I’m working on Dimensional Lumber Badge Bits this week so yesterday, my wife drove me to Home Depot to pick up some supplies including several 10ft boards.

Boards lashed to car roof bars



Top side of strap



Bottom side of strap



Car back home



Total length of board = 3146mm - 94mm = 10ft





Section of receipt showing board lengths



Last week I lashed two ten foot boards to my bike. I did everything except I only took one picture of the length . . . And then I chopped the boards up for another BB.

Cargo bikes are cool

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Aaarrrrggghhhh!



Phew!

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Here is my submission for the Homesteading Aspect - Sand for Straw Points - Lash Something 12' to a Vehicle BB.

While at Wheaton Labs, I needed to move one 2x4x12' and decided to lash it to Ranger Doug (small pickup truck) for the travel.  I secured the 2x4 to the ladder rack in the same way I would if I was hauling it from town to WL.

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2" x 4" x 12' ready to load
2" x 4" x 12' ready to load
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close up of length
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relocated

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Some folks in the big city were throwing out some 13-16 foot 2x6s.  Had to snatch em up for the homestead.
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beforeish, this stuff fit in and we could close the door
beforeish, this stuff fit in and we could close the door
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in the van, lashed up
in the van, lashed up
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down at its new home 100 miles away
down at its new home 100 miles away

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Some of these pictures will look familiar as I used my 10.5 foot top rails from my fence repair to accomplish this BB.

I have a Tacoma with a short bed (5 foot). I have a camper shell on the truck which gave me two lashing options 1) leave window closed, tailgate down and lash with pipes flat on truck bed. This created a problem of the pipes sliding in and out of the cargo strap. So I went with option #2, which was to option the camper shell window, leave tail gate close and prop the pipes up. I then did a circle around the pipes and ratcheted down. This created a tight "lock" on the pipes, not allowing for them to move left/ right or up/down.
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My truck at home before cargo
My truck at home before cargo
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At lowes picking up cargo. 10.5 foot top rails for this bb
At home depot picking up cargo. 10.5 foot top rails for this bb
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Close up of the measurement of the 10.5 foot top rail
Close up of the measurement of the 10.5 foot top rail
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Here is how it is lashed
Here is how it is lashed
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Truck and cargo made it safely back to house
Truck and cargo made it safely back to house
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All parts accounted for and fence was installed
All parts accounted for and fence was installed
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Did the transport and lash something 10 feet this morning.

Edit: Sorry, i was thinking the important part the securely latching something for transport. The strap did go around the ladder, i just forgot to post a zoomed photo.
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14 feet!
14 feet!
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Properly strap and flagged with coton ribon
Properly strap and flagged with coton ribon
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Little run to the school
Little run to the school
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Home again!
Home again!
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Zoom on the ratchet around the ladder
Zoom on the ratchet around the ladder

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Note: Two things.  First it has to be lashed to a vehicle.  Secondly, the lashing isn't that secure as shown.  Wrapping the straps around the ladder, then down to the tie-downs will keep it from sliding around.

 
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2nd try to this BB. Hope it's better
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Before lashing
Before lashing
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Nearly 11feet
Nearly 11feet
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Properly lashed
Properly lashed
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Zoomed back
Zoomed back
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Zoomed front
Zoomed front
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Details. Lash passing inside the door
Details. Lash passing inside the door
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Road trials. New location some miles further
Road trials. New location some miles further

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Living and growing on my small homestead near a project of permaculture school.

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howdy this is my submission for the lashing BB. I do feel this is kind of cheating I use my ladder and ladder rack to install garage doors almost daily.  I just use a simple rachet strap and I do hook it to the lower brackets because Im short as hell and cant reach it if its around the tubular steel.
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Brian Vause
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I hauled 10 pieces of 10ft drain pipe from one property to another yesterday.  I used two ratchet straps one wrapped around at the tailgate and one inside the bed to hold down the forward ends.  
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Before loading
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Loaded and secured
Loaded and secured
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Next morning at home safe and sound
Next morning at home safe and sound

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I took this rabbit hutch to my sister’s house in the next county. We ran one strap over the top to keep the front end down. We also ran straps around the back legs to prevent sliding side to side.
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Hutch in background
Hutch in background
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Hutch barely balanced in truck bed.
Hutch barely balanced in truck bed.
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All strapped in
All strapped in
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We survived
We survived
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Measured at destination
Measured at destination

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I have to haul my 24" extension ladder around to job sites once in a while.  It is 14 or 15ish feet when not extended.  This set up works really well when I need to haul a couple pieces of 16' lumber as well.  Lash the lumber down to the ladder and the ladder to the Blazer and I am in business!  

I traveled about five miles to this job on town roads and state highway with this load.

Anyway, here you go, thank you, and enjoy!
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No ladder
No ladder
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Strap on front
Strap on front
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Strap on back
Strap on back
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Loaded and road ready
Loaded and road ready
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Arrived at destination safe and sound
Arrived at destination safe and sound

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D. Logan
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I needed to borrow a 10ft ladder from work. It didn't shift at all for the trip. The method I used to secure it was with straps and since my van was long enough, no flag was needed.
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The Ladder
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Placed on the van
Placed on the van
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Action shot
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Fully Secure
Fully Secure
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At the original location
At the original location
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At the house
At the house

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Here is my submission for "Lash Something 10' or Longer to a Vehicle - PEP BB homesteading.sand.little.lash":

I am providing photos of the following:
 - Before the cargo has been attached to your vehicle
 - After the cargo has been attached to your vehicle
 - Clarity on how it is attached
 - Vehicle and cargo at a new location to demonstrate that the cargo was secure
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junkpoles for fences and sawmill scraps for rocket stuff, before lashing
junkpoles for fences and sawmill scraps for rocket stuff, before lashing
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after lashing
after lashing
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detail of front left ratchet strap attachment point
detail of front left ratchet strap attachment point
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detail of middle left ratchet strap attachment point
detail of middle left ratchet strap attachment point
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detail of rear left ratchet strap attachment point
detail of rear left ratchet strap attachment point
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load reached its new location safely
load reached its new location safely
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Clay McGowen
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I bought an orchard ladder on Facebook from a delightful man named Rob.

I was so excited to get it for a bargain, I was barely able to remember to take a photo while I was about to drive away.

I also forgot to get a before picture, so hopefully the after picture (including the removable ladder racks) makes up for it!

Note on the lashing: that goes through and around both the rung and uprights of the ladder, as well as the rack itself.

Once we shook hands, I drove ~8miles home, where I promptly set it up next to my house, lorded over the neighborhood from my 16foot perch, got a little scared being up that high, moved it to the apricot trees and went up to have a look there too.

Now it’s waiting for harvest season (if we get one with the frost), and it won’t need to be as protected from the elements as the wooden ladder.
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At pickup
At pickup
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At home
At home
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Lashing detail 1
Lashing detail 1
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Lashing detail 2
Lashing detail 2
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Length confirmation (16 feet)
Length confirmation (16 feet)
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Unloaded
Unloaded
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Apricot tree land (buckets were filled with rain water to try to prevent frost in tree… not sure if it worked, but there are only flowers in the middle above the main mass)
Apricot tree land (buckets were filled with rain water to try to prevent frost in tree… not sure if it worked, but there are only flowers in the middle above the main mass)
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I salvaged two old barn boards from a job.  A 16’ and a 13’ complete with nails.  To get them home I used two ratchet straps.  
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The cargo
The cargo
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Loaded
Loaded
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Ratchet strapped
Ratchet strapped
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Made it home with no movement
Made it home with no movement

J Lane

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I install and repair garage doors so knocking this one out again.  First picture is of my van unloaded, second with the new 14ft door panel on the van, third at the house with the busted panel new panel off and old brown panel on, and fourth picture at the house ready for taking off.  Next stop for the broken panel is the scrap yard. I used two rachet straps on the stiles of the door so they would not bend the metal. I traveled about 35 miles away on the interstate around Raleigh at speeds of 65-70 mph without issue.
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