Jenny Nazak

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Daytona Beach FL
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I prefer washing by hand for this reason (I'm not good w machines or plumbing, and don't like spending money/time on repairing them).
In the past I have used a hand-cranked washer or even a giant (farm-size) salad spinner. Now I just use a small tub and wring out stuff by hand before hanging it on the line. (Might sound laborious but I like keeping fit, and it's free, unlike the gym.) I always do laundry outdoors so leakage/spillage is a non-issue. And the water gets dumped on whatever tree or other plant needs it.
2 months ago
Greetings Esteemed Permaculture Folk,

Registration is now officially open for the Florida Permaculture Convergence!

Since 2013, Florida permie community has hosted annual statewide gatherings for people to network and deepen their knowledge of permaculture.
This year the event will be held for the third time at Kashi Ashram, in Sebastian Florida. The dates are Friday November 30 through Sunday December 2, 2018.

This year's theme is "Closing the  Loop".

Many of us – especially those interested in permaculture & sustainability – believe that we’re all connected… that everything is interconnected.  
And yet our modern way of life seems to disconnect us from nature and from each other.

So… we try to increase our positive impact on other beings and reduce our negative effects…even with unintended consequences.

How do we reverberate with the universe?
How do we close the loop with our actions & relationships?
Whence does our food come & where does our garbage go?
From where does soil fertility come? How do we fit in the nutrient cycle?
Does flushing a toilet close the loop?
Where are we in the hydrologic cycle?
Where do we get our daily electricity and gasoline and what are their effects?

Nature shows us there is no waste. At FPC 2018 we want to learn about our role in ecology and closing the loop of materials & energy in our daily lives.
HOW do we connect with nature?

Join us for the Sixth Annual Florida Permaculture Convergence ... Where we will journey to the center of permaculture!

This is a family-friendly event with a program of activities for young people.

Other goodies include free vending for registrants - come hawk your handcrafted or homegrown permie wares! Also check out our permaculture project grant contest - there is still time to apply.

For more info/registration, visit our Florida Permaculture Convergence website

Hope to see you in November!

Jenny Nazak
- Founder & admin, Permaculture Daytona
- Organizing committee member, Florida Permaculture Convergence
2 years ago
Would you like to present at the 2018 Florida Permaculture Convergence? The theme for this year is "Closing the Loop" and we are now accepting applications for presenters!

If you feel called to present and have something to share with our community, please submit your class description and personal bio with a picture of yourself to

Please share with anyone you feel has knowledge that will benefit our permaculture community in "Closing the Loop"

For more information on the event visit:

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Or website
I would think that sharing would make it MORE affordable, not less.
4 years ago

Creighton Samuiels wrote:If you truly are concerned about the difference in water consumption between hand-washing dishes and using a dishwasher; you can buy a new water-compliant dishwasher available this year (which consume a maximum of 2.5 gallons per fill cycle, or typically 5 gallons per standard wash & rinse; I work in a dishwasher factory)

EXCELLENT! An industry insider's perspective. Thank you. And it confirms that I use less water with my method. I use less *in my situation, the way I do it*. I can't speak for others. Some folks might be using 10 gallons of water to hand-wash their dishes. Those folks would save by getting one of these dishwashers you mention.

My method also uses less electricity than I would if I were to get a dishwasher. Not to mention the embodied energy of the dishwasher's manufacture, the additional hours I would need to work to earn the money to purchase the dishwasher, etc. (Some people have high-paying jobs and would laugh at that notion. I imagine there are some folks on here  who earn enough in an hour or two to buy a dishwasher.)

Also, I have found that *FOR ME*, my method encourages me to find ways to minimize energy expenditure (human OR fossil). Not having a machine to wash my dishes encourages me to find the simplest cooking methods and cleanup methods, and also to keep my inventory of possessions to a minimum. I keep just enough pots and dishes for myself and friends/guests.  

Creighton Samuiels wrote:or simply plant a deciduous tree.  One adult tree will contribute about as much water into the air, and thus the water cycle, as an acre of ocean surface; and it is not difficult for an acre of woodlot to hold 50+ mature trees.  As a bonus, you are also (temporarily) sequestering carbon during their growth.

Hear, hear! I'll mulch to that any day!!

4 years ago

Peter Ingot wrote:By the same logic, living without a washing machine would be slightly more bearable if we wore different clothes - shirts with detachable cuffs and collars for instance (something which went out around the time washing machines came in). I still value my washing machine very highly, but technology can become addictive rather than simply useful when we build our lives around it.

VERY good points! And interesting bit of information ... that detachable cuffs & collars went out at about the time washing machines came in. Which came first, the chicken or the egg ...?

BTW I had a gig for a while cleaning a house whose occupants were DROWNING in clothes. I can't even describe to you how many clothes each family member had, but to give you an idea, each of the young kids had at least A HUNDRED pairs of shoes. The adults had far more. These people were literally doing laundry all of the time. Large closets, huge chests of drawers, every available surface ... all jammed with clothes. I swear, sometimes I found myself putting things into the laundry just to get them off the dining-room table.

If the washing machine had never been invented, would families ever get themselves into this situation?

Sorry, I strayed from the dishwasher topic but it seemed relevant. Which comes first, the invention of an appliance or the extreme proliferation in volume of STUFF that needs attending to? Interesting exploration.

4 years ago

Creighton Samuiels wrote:I'm not trying to start more arguments, but I live in Kentucky, where there is no water shortage to speak of

I live in Florida, where we get 49 inches of rain a year, so technically there is no water shortage here either. And yet I still feel compelled to minimize my consumption of fresh water, because we have a limited supply of it planet-wide. Also, where I live, although we get a lot of rain, people don't do a good job of saving it -- either on the land via mulching and earthworks, or in rainbarrels. No matter where I live, I've always felt compelled to minimize my water consumption. And I'm not trying to start arguments either
This is a great thread though!! Very educational and inspiring.
4 years ago
Jocelyn wrote: "No matter how abundant your water supply, practicing conservation is a good habit to save money and time, let alone building skills in case of a temporary (or other) scarcity."


Where I live in Florida, we get 49 inches of rain a year. And we have springs in the central part of the state. Hardly a formula for scarcity, right? BUT, *HUMAN* activities are creating a formula for scarcity. The more we likeminded folks are able to normalize what's currently considered "fringe" or radical conservation, the better it'll be for all of us. By normalize I mean make it normal for one's own self, and also spread it to others who are interested in saving resources.

Things I'd like to normalize include rainwater collection; and getting by on 10 gallons of water or less per person per day (the average back in the early 1900s, before irrigated lawns and other water-hogging modern "normal" things).
4 years ago
Another note: In the Humanure Handbook, Joe Jenkins emphasizes the importance (if you're using sawdust) of using sawdust from a sawmill rather than from a lumber mill. I definitely found there was a great difference. There's a scientific reason why the sawmill-sawdust works much better. I don't remember the details but I did notice the difference!

As far as frequency of emptying ... I used a composting bucket-toilet for about 10 years. If I was careful to pee in jars and just put that on the land or into the compost bin rather than peeing in the bucket (unless it happened during #2 as someone else mentioned), I could often get away with just emptying the bucket once every 5 days or so (for a household of 1). The time & bother of emptying the bucket into my compost bin was less than I would have spent scrubbing a toilet-bowl of a flush toilet! And of course I was getting compost!

Another cover-material I often used is shredded newspaper and other paper (I'd shred it by hand in small batches, when I was tearing up things I would need to be shredding anyway, such as junk mail and old pages of journals and other writings I didn't want to keep around).

And, leaf-litter (from live-oak leaves -- the tannins helped make it an effective cover material, I think).
4 years ago
And, for Earth Day 2013 in Ormond Beach, Florida, I created this special exhibit of a mini garden bed, and towed it a few blocks (from the nursery owned by my friend who lent me the plants, to the City Hall where the Earth Day event takes place).
4 years ago