David Trammel wrote:Welcome Jim. Timely subject given how poorly many of our communities have been handling this health crisis.
Looking forward to reviewing the book.
Chris Panagiotou wrote:Considering building a workshop and house and am trying to decide between log building and timberframe building. Anyone have any thoughts as to the pros and cons?
I have built homes before, milling the lumber with a chainsaw mill, I have the tools needed for both types of building, I have logs and trees available at the site but the logs would need to be hauled mostly by hand. Trees are spruce or western hemlock. I like the log option because I wouldn't need to spend an eternity milling siding and interior wall coverings as I would with a timberframe, however the logs will be a lot more work to get to the site because of the hand hauling. Timberframe would need expensive insulation where log would not. Timberframe might go up faster and would certainly entail less heavy hauling of wood. I have built small buildings both timberframe and log so I am familiar with both methods and comfortable doing either but this would be the biggest project I have tackled yet. Both buildings would be two story and around 1,000 sq feet each.
One main goal would be to use as little purchased materials as possible and all of the lumber would be milled with the Alaska mill on or near the house site. No building codes here.
Any input at all would be great!
Michael Curtice wrote:Welcome to Permission, Jim!!! Glad to have you in the mix! KUDOS for writing your book!!! Community is the key to many facets of everyday life and giving society a 'blueprint' (your book) to achieve a better lifestyle within your Community is definitely a breath of fresh air!!! Thank You for caring and sharing!!! Positive Vibrations...Mike
Susan Dobbins wrote:I am interested in this book, for I feel for my grandson and his grandchildren will need connection as the world is becoming more separating with technology and right now this virus. I'm starting over at 57, had a little setback with some pulmonary embolisms. My plans got way laid this year, but, next I plan on doing a lot of gardening and donating to food pantries. I am in a small town now, bought this place at tax sale, crazy cheap and remodeling at snail pace, lol. Anyway, the world of my kids is so much different and distanced than human contact and sense of community that I experienced in another small town in the Midwest. These community building ideas I find facinating and so simple once started. Kind of like the old town church of many years ago. A place to meet and be part of nature, get some edible items and communicate live with others. I'm planning on making a green house and becoming less dependent on the stores for produce. Also to be able to share produce in the city that they don't get at the food pantries. This economy is collapsing and more and more will need assistance and teaching building a community effort and support system with be necessary moving forward, in my opinion.
Aimee Hall wrote:Welcome Jim. That is a very important topic, thank you for bringing your book to the world and congratulations.
What I read in your excerpts and on your website I do fully agree with and have implemented (to the best of my understanding without having read the rest of your book) in my own communities.
I think the issue I have had the most problem with is the slackers. They are often the most involved and helpful in meetings, planning, often want to be the ones in charge but seem to fall short when it comes to doing any of the real work. Unfortunately, others get tired of doing those peoples share of the work and then tend to fall into their habits, but I have found that many of the principals you mention will rally most back into action. They have varied in specific habits and excuses, but always insist they want to be a part of the community, sometimes they are spouses, siblings, or children of helpful active members.
Though I have never found an ideal solution for dealing with the people who are lazy, nor have the other community leaders. (unfortunately I believe being lazy is something most humans have to fight against. I do not want to do all the work that I do, I just feel I must or I cannot properly relax during the moments of peace I allow myself. Some people however are quite content to let everyone else do the work.) What are your suggestions? Because in my experience, they have been the single biggest challenge to productive and healthy community building.
Thank you so much for your time and expertise. I hope your book helps many get onto the right track with their communities.
Mary Haasch wrote:Welcome Jim! After looking through the book excerpt, I have a question. When I think of building things it always starts with a strong foundation and yet the Principle of 'Strengthen the Foundation' is not mentioned until 'K' which seems a little late in the process of building something. Conversely, in Figure 1.3 the 'Strengthen the Foundation' - K principle is dead center and at the base of the Principles. Was this by design? Can you provide any additional insight?
Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Hi Jim.
Building community, that's one of the most important parts of Permaculture, in my opinion!
Dado Scooter wrote:
Jim Gruber wrote:I am pleased to have my book on the City Form of Permies. In particular, I will greatly appreciate your questions and comments on Building Community - Twelve Principles for a Heathy Future. I will be responding to feedback and questions throughout this week.
Best, Jim Gruber
Hi, I am very interested in this subjecct. I live in a very unusual community that wants to stay rural, lots of fallow conventionally farmed lands, but is within the sphere of influence of Silicon Valley. Is there a way that we can make this a sustainable reegerative agricultural paradise?