Thomas Onderlan

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Bill, I grew up in the chemical farm paradigm and left the medical career after becoming disillusioned with the Power/control/ego moneyed crowd I was associating with. I studied Schauberger and biodynamics after a life-changing hurdle was thrown in my face, but I must say that the results I have personally proved to myself and dozens of customers over the years have made me a believer. Schauberger's research is the source of the land pi-tai system which I've built a prototype of to test out. the torus or vortex is the source of energy/life here and it was a very excruciating & even painful at times conversion from that chemical/physical paradigm of thinking to the natural/electric universe paradigm.
Devin, have you found a place yet. I would love to talk to you as I've been in to some of the very same things you've experienced working for the wealthy and then wanting / seeing/feeling like there is some thing more to do. I've come up with a unique land design I call the pi-tia land use system which, without going into great lengths on the scientific principles involved, duh, really boring stuff, it creates a toroidal vortex on the farm. The part I love is not just making a creation that feeds you but visually inspires you while you live in harmony with the land. I've started with 30 acres but it's 12 month growing season here.
5 years ago
Hello Michigan, my wife & I live in south Texas close to Mexico border. We have a small (30 acres small by Texas standards homestead that I have been rehabilitating for 30 years now. It started out as a chemically depleted piece of dirt (commercially farmed for years) that I have been able to restore back to 'way-beyond-organic' and probably better than it ever was. I have used biodynamic, organic, and, the biggie, which I give most of the credit to - a tree-trimming business which I ran/owned since before i owned the land and all the tons of wood chips, logs, trunks which were harvested for 30 years have been incorporated into the soil and today my soil profile is possibly some of the best on the planet. I've tried everything from microbial inoculants to sea water to biodynamic preps to cosmic pipes = I love the soil & growing things - not too big on the technology (needed)to promote it although I'm coming around. Today, on the farm, I use Joel Salatin's farm model(s) and have learned a lot from him. Also, Rudolf Steiner has, IMO, the best 'handle' on where the energy needed for running the farm comes from and permaculture seems to incorporate common-sense into farming.
That is my background and your experience of taking off to live on the land reminded me of something similar I did myself 38 years ago when I left the way of life I had grown up with and took off not knowing where I would end up. That is what caught my attention and I am looking for like-minded people who love to farm and are looking for an opportunity and not afraid of experiencing life in the process. I have a design in mind for what it will take to live independently & self-sustainably on the land but that is a topic for a later conversation. For now, I am posting this and we'll see what happens.
peace & blessings, Thomas
6 years ago
Charles Eisenstein's video - finally got to see it through and I was absolutely wrong about the contents of his (Charles') video. I had confused it with another one I saw. Charles' video is spot on from my perspective at this time. BTW, I would direct you to a paper I ran across several years ago called, Silent weapons for a Silent War. Here's a link: http://www.iamsomedude.com/crash.html and here: http://www.iamsomedude.com/Silent%20Weapons%20for%20Quiet%20Wars.htm#eight
I think the latter one is the proper URL ;-(
Anyway, there is a rather enlightening (and pertinent to our discussion) thread partway down titled, 'Mr. Roth(s)child's Energy Discovery' which also gives some historical basis to our current paradigm of economics prevalent today, I think. Mr. Rothschild discovered that man's greedy nature would allow him to manipulate individuals and governments to the extent that he would be able to control whole economies, ultimately, by utilizing fiat currency. From another source I read awhile back, it is claimed that the Rothschild family owns ~66% of all the wealth of the world today. If that is true and fiat currency is the means whereby he obtained control over man and governments today, then it may be that fiat currency/paper currency, being controlled as it is by the (very) few would seem to be the means of control & enslavement of mankind today. The hook used to snare man with, of course, being his greed(y) nature as opposed to, say, giving nature. I will throw in one more variable? into the mix, as if there isn't enough already , and that is something which was instrumental in leading me to economics in general and economics aligned with ecology in particular and that is : "Freely you have received, freely give", a quote attributed to Yahuwshua aka Jesus and one which I have been grappling to understand and sort out in my (own) mind. When I first began thinking of that (seeming dichotomy from what I had been taught by conventional economics) phrase, it made no sense. After months of reflection and years of farming, I've realized that so much of what I was taught & trained, educated & schooled, programmed, brainwashed & dumbed down to believe in are not natural to plants, animals and the ecology. Nature (almost always?/always?) freely gives and freely receives. I think man is waking up presently and many of us are trying to find the truth of what is happening around us and how to reconcile, if not for the whole of economics as aligned with ecology, at least for the economics of our own financial world.
Where does the ultimate truth lie? Where will all of this lead each one of us? Is there enough time to get it back on track and how do we go about it? OOOPS!!! That's a discussion for the next symposium on economics and we'll have to take that one up in a later thread LOL!! Just joking around here although it is a serious subject to be sure
6 years ago
yes, I've seen that one and It is very good. I think a start in the right direction. I tried to look at it again but was having trouble 'loading' I think? Either way, from my memory, I vaguely remember thinking that it did not address one salient point which I believe is important. A stable medium of exchange. Trading directly, value for value, was/is the only solution I've come across to address that problem ( and like I said, I'm going on memory here after first watching the video from awhile back) All in all, a great start ...
6 years ago
Great. I have been going in that same direction myself, i.e. how to live on the land outside the boundaries of the current paradigm of economic thought. I would be interested to learn of your take on what parameters are involved in 'economics aligned with ecology'? Perhaps sharing our mutual thoughts may help the both of us to learn more???
Thomas
PS. I am still (trying) to learn how to get around these 'forums?' and altho' I love what I read here, it is a daunting task for me to navigate through this technological wilderness of posts, replies, download, input, output, etc... I'm much more familiar with PTO, shovel, manure, dirt, soil and getting my hands dirty LOL!!
6 years ago
I have guineas and chickens in a Salatin style chicken tractor and my thinking now, after more than 3 years are: Pros- 1. guineas are far better at ticks and fleas and chasing off predators, 2. guineas are great watchdogs for chickens. Cons-1. guineas harass chickens and each other 2. don't put guineas in same tractor with chickens and you're better off.
My plan now is to introduce new keets to a separate tractor in my 'chuck-wagon' train and enjoy the guineas for thanksgiving and christmas
6 years ago