Triton Nomad

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John F Dean - absolutely!
In my experience, dwarf and even semidwarf trees are slower growing, more sensitive to problems and much easier killed.

I had semi-dwarf apples having their roots and bark chewed by voles.

At the same time I planted an Antonovka (standard) tree in a swampy area (supposedly a no-no) and it doubled in a year.
2 years ago
Here are some of my experiences:

Polyculture - I planted fruit trees in 2 locations. One has full sun, good soil and grass. The other has some shade from evergreen trees, lots of rotten logs, brambles and bushes. The trees in the second location did much better - none of them was killed by deer and they grew faster. Also surprisingly they were not affected by the cherry sawfly which killed a couple of trees in the sunny area.

Animals - nobody mentioned it yet but part of permaculture is using animals to keep predators in check. My cats keep the moles and voles at bay. Before I had them I had 4 trees just chewed completely below soil level.
Same with "chop and drop" - why should i do it when my ducks do it for me? They also eat slugs.

One last thing - recently I got some mini Nubian goats and I let them free. Right now they prefer to eat the blackberries and the hemlock but  I will have to see if they attack my fruit trees in the spring - anybody has any suggestion?
2 years ago
Quick update about the bees:
- I bought one beehive from a commercial beekeeper - the queen was from California.

The bees did great in the summer, they even swarmed and both hives seemed fine.
Come fall, the new hive showed signs of stress. I tried to feed them but the older hive attacked and killed them all.
Come winter, the old hive died too (Varroa mites). They had 2 boxes full of honey but no brood.

I asked around and found a couple of people that have been doing beekeeping for a while. One of them lost all their hives this winter.
The other has one surviving hive after heat treatments, oxalic acid etc.

So I am not the only one to have problems.

My only hope now is to find someone that has survivor bees. I am convinced that the inbred commercial queens are a lost cause.

If anybody knows any locals that are successful, let me know.
I know other places in the world can do beekeeping without treatments so either we are in a horrible place for bees (pollution? climate?) or the commercial beekeepers have damaged the bees' genome to a horrible extreme.
3 years ago
Carmen,
I don't know how the deer/elk decide what to eat.
I know people in Seattle suburbs that had their fruit trees eaten by deer.
On the other hand, I am in the middle of nowhere and I see elk and deer tracks and spoor right next to my fruit trees every day but they did not touch them.

That does not mean all trees are fine - I had voles eating the roots completely until the tree fell over. The rabbits eat lower branches and the slugs chew through leaves and buds.
3 years ago
Carmen, I clicked on your name and followed you. I hope that will help us to stay in touch - I can see your posts sooner.

Stacy, thanks for the info! I just finished the hoophouse and I am preparing the beds. We might have issues with voles  but not with ventilation - I have 2 big doors and my hoophouse is not big.
Thanks
4 years ago
I have the same question, I am in a similar situation with you (Washington state) but on the hills not the coast.

I do have a couple of suggestions to start with. These are things that I have tried as I am learning about root cellaring.
1) Soil. You can check the gov site web soil survey (https://websoilsurvey.sc.egov.usda.gov/App/HomePage.htm) to see what soils you have in your yard and their properties. The site is extremely useful for many different things (fertility, ability to build etc) but in this case click on the soil and look at these properties:


Depth to water table: ...
Frequency of flooding: ...
Frequency of ponding: ...



2) Of course you also need to test yourself - dig a small hole and add some water (soil is already wet right now). If it does not drain in a reasonable amount of time (hours) you have a problem.

3) About your suggestion to build above ground - I think it would definitely work. Just be aware that soil is heavy and you need to move cubic yards, unless you already have a hill/slope in the right location and preferably with a northern aspect.

4) I read somewhere that a good use for an old fridge is as a "mini" cellar. You just dig a hole and put the fridge inside lying down with the door up. You can use a strawbale or some reflective insulation on top. I can see problems with this because there is no ventilation but maybe there are workarounds?

Thanks
4 years ago
About building: I built a small cabin and a couple of sheds by myself. I researched earthbags, cob, log and wattle and daub. In the end I went with the classic wood design because in US there is very little support and materials for alternative building style.
Maybe you can still do it but I have a full time job and I traded time for money (even though standard wood construction is not much more expensive)

I only have just one piece of advice - don't use fiberglass insulation. I used rockwool (available at Lowe's) is 10% more expensive but it has 20% more insulation, it does not produce lung destroying fibers and it works when wet.


About your second question: I am from Eastern Europe, from a place that only started "modernizing" after the fall of communism. As such I was lucky enough to see a lot of traditional practices.
For example houses were still built using wattle and daub or adobe, every home in the village was practicing permaculture and even people in the cities kept chickens, pigs and even cows (grazing on the side of the road).

I don't have a good link online - the people that practiced all these traditional methods have passed away or are too poor to have internet. There is a "back to the land" movement but weirdly but not surprisingly they prefer to copy the western models instead of asking their grandparents.

In terms of climate, it was continental so comparable to Eastern Washington. In terms of society, it was very different since most people cooked and other than bread they got the animals/vegetables from the backyard or directly from a farmer.
The weird thing is they are copying the west now (including all the problems like obesity and diabetes and stress) while here some of us are trying to move the opposite direction. So my hope is that PNW will become closer to what I have seen growing up
4 years ago
Hi Carmen,
I will try to post more. I tend to read a lot but contribute little so I hope to help somebody with my experience.

About events and meeting up - I saw your previous post on that and replied.
I am not native to this area (or US) so I don't have many contacts locally.
I would like to learn more from other people. I can try to create a meetup and post it here.
Or if you know of any classes or groups, let me know. For example in my area (Lewis County, WA) Raintree Nursery and Burnt Ridge Nursery used to have classes about fruit trees, making cider etc. Nothing this year of course

Alternatively, if anybody needs any help come spring I am ready to help for a day and hopefully learn something too.
4 years ago
I hope this post is not too frivolous for this forum. As I am getting deeper into permaculture I notice how important local knowledge and experience is.

I ordered a NUC and a Langstroth hive from a local beekeeper. Immediately after I started reading some posts on permies.com and I discovered Leo Sharashkin, his incredble website and the book (Keeping Bees with a smile). I am reading the book right now and I have to say: finally! I read 5 beekeeping books in the last month and it was depressing. Finally a book that makes sense from an evolutionary perspective and matches my limited childhood experience with traditional beekeepers.
So now I have this split personality where I learn the standard industrial way (I take the beekeeping class from the state beekeepers association) while I build my own horizontal hives and prepare for spring.

Are other people in the area doing beekeeping? What do you use? I know James Landreth was talking about log hives I hope he can chime in.

Secondly, I have researched more into greenhouses/hoophouses and I noticed a big split. Most people build a greenhouse above ground and use gas burners to heat it up if needed (throw energy at the problem). A small minority builds gigantic superinsulated underground greenhouses with huge thermal mass and even geothermal heating (throw money at the problem).
Since I have limited experience, I would like to try to build a cheap PVC hoophouse with a small twist - dig 2 feet under soil level and use tall raised beds inside. I think that might provide enough thermal mass for a mild climate like ours. This is based on Mike Oehler ideas but simplified.

Anybody using hoophouses/greenhouses around here? I am not worried about the fall (even though I hope for an extra month). I am just hoping that the thermal mass of the ground combined with the big insolation in Mar/Apr will make a lot of difference.
4 years ago
I don't know anything about crochet :(
About the farmer's market in Olympia - see https://www.olympiafarmersmarket.com/.
Like I said, it seems to be the only permies friendly event that I know of in the whole WA state. How is that for depressing?
4 years ago