Whenever there is talk of 'natural succession' one
should always bear in my one thing:
The fact that humans could come up with this concept of "natural" is because they've provided the conditions for it in the first place.
Open areas get populated by pioneers, brush, fast growing trees, then large trees, basically forever unless the chainsaw comes in.
But that's a phenomenon that didn't exist until mankind acquired the knowledge of how to hunt large animals.
If the earth still had all species of large - and I mean large - animals, a climax forest would be a rare sight.
You'd find it on steep cliffs and in other areas that large creatures can't reach, but on flatter
land the elephants and rhinos would
see to it that large trees would not come up as a forest, but rather as small patches. And these patches would consist of unpalatable species.
The edible ones would repeatedly be eaten down to the size of a small brush - those towering beech forests that cover my country simply wouldn't exist.
I wonder what that means for us permaculturalists, keeping in mind
Sepp Holzer's bonmot '... then you must do the pig's work !".
Don't we too need patchy forests like those to have maximum productivity ?
http://permaculture.org.au/2011/08/10/the-tree-that-hides-the-prairie/