• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Growing persimmon from seed -- will it be non-astringent type?

 
pollinator
Posts: 231
Location: Australia, Canberra
89
2
dog forest garden fish books bee
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I have collected some persimmon seeds and sow them after cold stratification.
One of them stayed alive despite the slugs.

The seed came from a non-astringed variety but I don't know the name.

This is its third year and growing nicely.

What are my chances of getting a non-astringed fruit out of this seedling? Has anybody grown persimmon from seed?
persimmon-seedling.jpg
persimmon seedling
persimmon seedling
 
steward
Posts: 2878
Location: Zone 7b/8a Southeast US
1106
4
forest garden fish trees foraging earthworks food preservation cooking bee woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Awesome persimmon tree, it looks very healthy! From what I've read, if it was an Asian type persimmon it won't be astringent, but if it is an American type, it will be astringent before being fully ripe.

I haven't grown persimmons yet personally though, but I am hoping to plant some next year and get some seeds from them to grow!
 
Posts: 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi there, is your Persimmon tree still growing well?
 
Posts: 99
8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I screwed up my opportunity to grow persimmons.


In Oklahoma I'm pretty sure all the native trees are "astringent."

I got some wood for free with fruits on, and I buried them deep into my berms.

Never gave them a chance

.I did that on accident.

I never particularly liked the local persimmons.

But my grandfather was always on the hunt for them when we were in the forest. he never told me why.

I want my food forest to have some of the locals.

I expect it's a medication.




 
gardener
Posts: 1871
Location: Japan, zone 9a/b, annual rainfall 2550mm, avg temp 1.5-32 C
930
2
kids home care trees cooking bike woodworking ungarbage
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Most japanese varieties are actually astringent until fully ripe. So I'm assuming there is a particular gene for astringency that is not expressed in the non astringent ones.

I'm not a master of genetics so my answer is all guesswork, but I would say it's pretty likely the tree grown from seed will have the astringency gene, and will probably express it.
 
"Men only want one thing and it's disgusting." Then you should wash it! This tiny ad will help:
12 DVDs bundle
https://permies.com/wiki/269050/DVDs-bundle
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic