Eco village in Europe?

There seem to be a lot of people on this forum from the USA, I can't find any communities listed here from Europe.

I am planning to start or join an eco village/community based on permaculture, green building and moneyless living, without membership or joining fees, on public land, otherwise it wouldn't be truly moneyless

If you know of a community like this, or would like to start one together with me, I look forward to hearing from you.

have you tried Sieben Linden by Poppau? Check out the GEN web site

I can see why it would be difficult to get remote land in Europe... maybe eastern Europe?

winsol3 wrote:
have you tried Sieben Linden by Poppau? Check out the GEN web site

I can see why it would be difficult to get remote land in Europe... maybe eastern Europe?

Get land? I don't feel like buying land! Living on public land is the way to start a moneyless community.

Sieben Linden PURCHASED their land, which means they paid for it, I don't support that community model

selfsufficientlivi wrote:
Get land? I don't feel like buying land! Living on public land is the way to start a moneyless community.

Sieben Linden PURCHASED their land, which means they paid for it, I don't support that community model

Sorry for nitpicking; but wouldn't you agree that permaculture practices are about what one does in order to live off land?

What I mean is, I find the origins of the land completely irrelevant to practicing permaculture.

I'm not familiar with the village in question. Just saying that just because someone has purchased something at some time in the past, does not mean that that person has anything to do with any kind currency at the moment.

I agree that land ownership is kinda irrelevant - we are all transients here.  I do love the Henry George model on economics and land = it should only be owned by community.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_George

On the other hand, getting into financing with loans, banks, etc.  seems to be one common thread of BIG problems for many EC's.  i like the co-op and timebank models.  there are still appropriate uses for money in getting supplies.  are there any examples of ECs that are totally 'money-less'? 

I think we might be on the same page, the idea is to use Geoff Lawton's permaculture philosophy and apply it to an existing deciduous forest in Europe , near a town , for wifi and developmental needs . Culminating in the town benefiting from organic foods .

Dig la ZAD (Zone a Defendre) in France, near Nantes. https://zad.nadir.org/
More of a politically centered movement but from what I have heard and read, there are people who are definately on the same page as you who are living here. And yes, it is on public land / private land that is going to be expropriated by the airport developers. def worth a look and I would even venture to say a visit.
Cheers!

Living without the need for real money is essential. The problem I would think in taking over public land is the fact that THE MAN says its public until someone higher up the chain sees PROFIT and that public land is in the way. Possibly years of toil and hard graft in getting it running smoothly bulldozed in a few hours. FACT The love of money is the root of all evil

which part of europe are you looking at?

I' m off to spain next year to look at some free sites, and i'm going to stop off at a community which is privately owned by who ever wants to live permaculturely. i have sent you a PM

fiona smith wrote:which part of europe are you looking at?

I' m off to spain next year to look at some free sites, and i'm going to stop off at a community which is privately owned by who ever wants to live permaculturely. i have sent you a PM

I'd like more info on the free sites in Spain you mentioned. I've been considering some in expensive property in Portugal but I have to do more research on it. I'd like to get involved with or settle near a community of like minded people.

selfsufficientli McCoy wrote:I am planning to start or join an eco village/community based on permaculture, green building and moneyless living, without membership or joining fees, on public land, otherwise it wouldn't be truly moneyless

If you know of a community like this, or would like to start one together with me, I look forward to hearing from you.

Hi McCoy,

I was wondering if you were successful in finding what you were looking for. I'm looking for something very similar. I'm ready for a big change, and am more than ready to leave the indoctrinated way of life. I want to be able to build what I want, and use materials the earth provides us with.
I've been living in Germany for sometime now, and would like to move down south where the exotic fruits and vegtables grow, and where there are more sunny days, than cold and cloudy ones filled with chem-clouds.

Aldi

fiona smith wrote:which part of europe are you looking at?

I' m off to spain next year to look at some free sites, and i'm going to stop off at a community which is privately owned by who ever wants to live permaculturely. i have sent you a PM

Hello. I'm also very curious about this. Since it might be the only way of pursuing self-sufficiency for me.

All the best.
/Pontus

Let's try to get this thread going again with a regular stream of interest.

It seems there are some people - such as the OP - that agree with me that permaculture must first and foremost be about autonomy, consentient community and voluntary cooperation.

To that end, I'm gonna be touring around Europe this Spring and Summer with a view to trying to 'feel' out whether or not there is a suitable existent project.

The question for those of us that are interested, if there is not already a publicised site, is to found one of our own.

This process would, I suggest, take three stages: 1. Agreement of the fundamental principles on which to found the community. 2. Reconnaisance of candidate sites. 3. Pooling of resources and moving in a vanguard.

What do you all think?