I'm not quite a lumberjack, but that's OK, I sleep all night and I dream all day; I'll coppice trees, I'll grow my food, and compost poo and pee! With a well and off-grid solar, it's a permies life for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts
Piero Soligo wrote:Hi, I'm deciding on moving to WA and wanted to know if anyone have any feedback about my 2 options:
Buying land - It is super expensive, but I would recreate an eco-lodge I developed in Puerto Rico ( ficustemple.com )
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Renting land- I would build a movable shipping container tiny-home and I would make an agreement with the land owner to lease a small portion of a land (.25 acre max). I planned on offering monthly rent, permaculture services or both and all I would need would be access to water. The only thing I need is to be, at least, 50minutes max from Portland.
Ask me about food.
How Permies.com Works (lots of useful links)
Jahnavi Veronica wrote:Hey Piero, we live in unincorporated clark county, out in the foothills. Its a great place! Real close to state forest land. Streams are healthy. Lots of trees. One downside is that most people seem to move out here to keep to themselves, something which i grow more and more confused about.
Where we are land is usually $30,000/acre. Yeah its super expensive compared to cowlitz but there is an upside of higher population densities(maybe this is a downside to some), and proximity to portland.
There are several properties within walking distance of our house that are for sale currently. Mostly 5 acre parcels without much improvements. I'm always trying to attract more permie neighbors out here.
I'm not quite a lumberjack, but that's OK, I sleep all night and I dream all day; I'll coppice trees, I'll grow my food, and compost poo and pee! With a well and off-grid solar, it's a permies life for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts
Erik Goheen wrote:Hi Piero, there's also a pretty strong push for a state income tax right now, and definitely follow the observe rule for a year before building your Temple, we have a different climate than PR.
Check out the Bullock's homestead on orcas island, they've figured it a few things that you're considering regarding toilets etc.
Piero Soligo wrote:I'm considering Washington (for buying land) because it doesn't collect state taxes. I just want to be near Portland so there are more employment opportunities for my family if I bring them with me at a later time. I'm looking for flat/ somewhat sloped land, forested is ok but with enough access to the sun for a solar system. Mainly, something that has an affordable rent that would allow for the use of the land.
An ideal site would be one in which I could develop a mini demonstration site where I could offer PDC once I get my Permaculture design diploma. Of course, for that it would be better to own the site.
Ask me about food.
How Permies.com Works (lots of useful links)
Julia Winter wrote:
OK, so the proximity to Portland is for family members to have employment opportunities - it's not that you plan to earn money in Portland? Because, if you earn more than a couple thousand dollars in Oregon, you need to pay Oregon income tax, even if you don't live in Oregon. You can read about that here.
If you plan to travel to Portland with any frequency, your quality of life goes up if you don't have to endure the traffic on the 205 or the 5 trying to get across the Columbia River.
We have a farm, 40 acres, in Beavercreek Oregon, about half an hour south of Portland. It's possible you could rent some land from us - we had a young man in a tiny house stay in our fourth pasture through the summer and fall. He did carpentry work on the farm in exchange for the space for his house and car. His work ethic, or more precisely his "clean up after himself" ethic left something to be desired, but anyway, opportunities exist in Oregon as well as Washington. We're having solar panels installed on the goat barn - the panels are up, we still need to build a secure room inside for all the rest of the equipment - so a person with solar expertise is intriguing. Our long term plan for the property is agro-tourism, we are refurbishing the main house on the property to be a vacation rental and possibly a meeting place and educational center. Eventually we'd like to have multiple places to rent in various beautiful locations, kind of like your place in Puerto Rico.
Jahnavi Veronica wrote:Hey Piero, we live in unincorporated clark county, out in the foothills. Its a great place! Real close to state forest land. Streams are healthy. Lots of trees. One downside is that most people seem to move out here to keep to themselves, something which i grow more and more confused about.
Where we are land is usually $30,000/acre. Yeah its super expensive compared to cowlitz but there is an upside of higher population densities(maybe this is a downside to some), and proximity to portland.
There are several properties within walking distance of our house that are for sale currently. Mostly 5 acre parcels without much improvements. I'm always trying to attract more permie neighbors out here.
I'm not quite a lumberjack, but that's OK, I sleep all night and I dream all day; I'll coppice trees, I'll grow my food, and compost poo and pee! With a well and off-grid solar, it's a permies life for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts
Mark Tudor wrote:Piero, here is a search from landwatch.com on Clark County Washington, under $100,ooo: https://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=r&type=5,80;6,119;267,7110;268,6843&px=100000
19 properties for sale, ranging from 0.1 acres up to 6.11 acres.
I'm not quite a lumberjack, but that's OK, I sleep all night and I dream all day; I'll coppice trees, I'll grow my food, and compost poo and pee! With a well and off-grid solar, it's a permies life for me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts
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