rose macaskie wrote:
A thread on farming in california in a mediteranean climate should include a talk about fire prevention and the fatal results of having to much dry vegetation in summer and on the other hand of the fatal results to the climate and the amount of food you can produce of turning the whole country in to a big fire break.
You talk to people from farming communities of how they should have more vegetation because if not they will have desertification and they will tell you that things have to be cleaned or they will be a fire risk, however if you say they over clear and graze for fear of fires they will deny it. They do some strange mental gymnastics when it comes to thinking of desertification alongside fire risk measures.
In the mediteranean they need to find a more moderate way of reducing fire risk than their old one, eating down pasture so frequently that the plants are killed and only then moving on to fresh pastures. If the pasture was as strong as it could be, there would be to many acres of pasture to eat down just before the July heat. As they can’t hope to level all healthy pastures in August they make sure that the pastures are very poor a blade of grass here and a blade there, by overgrazing all the year round, then there are very few blades to eat up quickly in the dry season. That is excepting a few spots that are difficult to reach that fall through the holes in the net.
I have seen the signs of the use of herbicides to reduce pature on the mountains. It is an excepted fact that it is important to do for vegetation to reduce the fire risk but i have also been given a hint that hunting is one of the reasons for use of herbicides. As it is hard to wak through woody cistus bushes, herbicides are used in order to reduce the number of cystus bushes, so that those that practise shooting have an easy walk over the decimated hills.
In modern times, the last century they have started to grow pine forest for wood in the mediteranean and to have, were these are grown, the problem of big fires rather than the problem of over clearing and grazing.
Fire contention is a big part of the subject about how to farm places with a mediteranean climate as people in California who get their homes burned down every few years will know.
I think that talking about fire breaks in pasture land as well as in forests should be a big part of threads like this. Fire breaks round villages would be another theme and a discussion abut were else locals would like fire breaks to be established and were they could have optimum vegetation.
Being able to flod some areas in case of fire migh tbe a pssibility in some places. May be it it could be possible to have seasonal mowing of hills were live stock werer insuficient to keep in control all the land availiable to landowners in summer. We get fruit pickers which is a seasonal work, it should be possible to get mowers too, except there might be no profit in mowing a hillside. It is ne of those jobs that need doing that are not part of the markets of work and profit, unless neighbors living in the vecinity decide to pay for such a job. agri rose macaskie
Some of the fire problems I think must stem from the lack of herbivores to control and reduce the dry brush and grasses.
And also from a lack of high frecuency low intensity fires. Many of the mediterranean plants are not very palatable. Here we get Pinus, rosemary, Pistacia lentiscus, Ulex sp ... not many animals will eat those. I don't know of a single animal that will eat rosemary, not even hungry camels.
If anybody knows of an animal that does eat and control rosemary I would like to know, I've got huge extensions of it.
Try olives and dry them ....
Tyler Ludens wrote:If you can irrigate a bit you can grow all of these: http://perennialvegetables.org/perennial-vegetables-for-each-climate-type/mediterranean-and-mild-subtropical/
Nick Garbarino wrote:2 small drought tolerant trees: jujube and mulberry. They produce right away and are easy to grow.
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