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here's a little comparison chart between SEPPer program and Bootcamp:

SEPPER ProgramPermaculture Bootcamp
Hours/day4 hours in the morning, or 4 hours in the afternoon or both,
or lounge around all day (no food provided if you choose that option)
8 hours plus nest labor
AccommodationsYour choice of rentalUsually something nice, maybe your choice, sometimes a tent or "cooper cabin slumber party" (tents provided)
Costdepends on rental, length of stay, amount of people
at least $150
$100
Lengthyour choice!at least 1 full week
Can you stay longer?Yep! You can stay a SEPPER, or join bootcamp
or buy a Deep Roots or Shallow Roots plot
You can stay in Bootcamp as long as you want!
Food provided?Bring your own or:
each person that joins the bootcamp for a half day can share one meal with the boots
each person that joins the bootcamp for a full day can share three meals with the boots
Yes! Food staples are provided
Boots cook for themselves
Earn plot at Ant Village?Maybe.   Talk to paul after two months.after 4 months in Bootcamp, you have over a year of rent
Choice of Activities?With some advance notice, it might get worked out to shift bootcamp priorities so the Sepper can experience something in particularWork on highest Bootcamp priorities
 
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Morning gathering to get the direction for the day:



https://permies.com/t/10/146265/permaculture-projects/Dez-Bootcamp-Experience-BRK#1148221

 
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Hannah and Kevin were here for a bit over a month.   My guess is that Hannah is the artist ...




Last week there were 17 of us.  Kyle was here for just a few days.  Two couples came for just a week.   And today, mud and rodney had to get back to their lives, and hannah and kevin had to get back to theirs.   Here are the eight of us still here.  



(from Dez's thread)


We have another couple arriving on Sunday to stay in the red cabin.  They will be with us a month.  And another couple arriving the weekend after that.   There are a few others that got something scheduled before we switched over to the waiting list system.   There are now nine people on the waiting list.  





 
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There are now ten people on the waiting list.

There are 7 boots here now.  Two more show upon monday.  And then three more spread out over the rest of the month.  These are the folks that already made arrangements before we started the list.  

It sounds like they all have an exit plan, so we might be asking about two more people in a month or so.

 
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current boot crew

 
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We are making another change:  the bootcamp fee is about to change to $100 per person.  Flat.  We did have something that was $100 for the first person and $20 for each person after that, but we are discontinuing that.  

So if anybody wants to exercise the $120 option, they really need to do it in the next two days.  

 
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a day in the bootcamp

 
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paul wheaton wrote:

Beau Davidson wrote: I understand the risks of asking a question like this, knowing that unsupervised kids at Wheaton labs may be fed to the bears or set on top of a rocket mass barrel.  However, I am curious if this program may be flexed to accommodate families where one spouse will work his tail off, and the other will stay in charge of the litter. I love the idea of raising my family in a homesteading environment.



I like the idea of doing something like that some day.  

I offered something a lot like this a year and a half ago, but had no takers.  I thought it would be cool to bring in three families and they could support each other.  But I had zero families to try this idea.  

The word "bootcamp" starts off with some meaning where a person would go and share bunks with 50 other people for three months.  More recently it has come to mean something where a person will pay to go get training in something for a week to a month. And the style of training is experiential.  But in neither of those scenarios is there a family.  

I do think that a person could get an ant plot, build a little something for their whole family and that would work.  

There have been kids here.  Lots of kids.   A few were amazingly cool and most were not.   And since the fisher price house is not childproof, a parent needs to rain down hell on a toddler to get them to not destroy things - and in the end stuff just gets wrecked.

The thing with kids has been brought up dozens of times.   For the first time ever, I'm going to do this:   what do you propose?



Shoooooooot.  4 years later, I see this response!  Sorry for falling off the thread.

Currently, no proposal.  I'll be there solo later this week, and maybe will pursue coming with the family for a spell later on.  I certainly love the idea of sharing that space, carving it out with some other families.  
 
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Families during the bootcamp ...

Of course military bootcamp, and other bootcamps don't facilitate families, so part me wants to use the joel salatin line of "if they big guys can't figure out a way to make it work, I don't see how I can figure out a way either."  

At the same time, the ponder family came and it worked great.  

Further, we recently went through a wave of people wanting to come out and bring kids or spouses (or pseudo-spouses) and ....  in the end ... the solution was the sepper program.   Rent a structure or a tent space for the fam - and the fam feeds themselves.   And then if one person wants to join the bootcamp from time-to-time we can do that.  And if that one person is in the bootcamp for half the day, they get one meal, and if they are in the bootcamp for a full day, they get three meals.  And everybody shares dinner on taco tuesday.  



 
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paul wheaton wrote:Families during the bootcamp ...

Of course military bootcamp, and other bootcamps don't facilitate families, so part me wants to use the joel salatin line of "if they big guys can't figure out a way to make it work, I don't see how I can figure out a way either."  

At the same time, the ponder family came and it worked great.  

Further, we recently went through a wave of people wanting to come out and bring kids or spouses (or pseudo-spouses) and ....  in the end ... the solution was the sepper program.   Rent a structure or a tent space for the fam - and the fam feeds themselves.   And then if one person wants to join the bootcamp from time-to-time we can do that.  And if that one person is in the bootcamp for half the day, they get one meal, and if they are in the bootcamp for a full day, they get three meals.  And everybody shares dinner on taco tuesday.  




Sounds like a great arrangement!
 
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I created a thread to cover all the winter stuff in the bootcamp, plus seven extra winter holidays that will be "celebrated" during boot hours:

https://permies.com/t/149839/permaculture-projects/permaculture-bootcamp-winter

 
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current boot camp (minus Clayton and Martha)
 
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Might be inviting two more boots from the waiting list this weekend:  https://permies.com/t/146876/permaculture-projects/bootcamp-waiting-list#1173660

 
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