|SEPPER Program||Permaculture Bootcamp|
|Hours/day||4 hours in the morning, or 4 hours in the afternoon or both,|
or lounge around all day (no food provided if you choose that option)
|8 hours plus nest labor|
|Accommodations||Your choice of rental||Usually something nice, maybe your choice, sometimes a tent or "cooper cabin slumber party" (tents provided)|
|Cost||depends on rental, length of stay, amount of people|
at least $150
|Length||your choice!||at least 1 full week|
|Can you stay longer?||Yep! You can stay a SEPPER, or join bootcamp|
or buy a Deep Roots or Shallow Roots plot
|You can stay in Bootcamp as long as you want!|
|Food provided?||Bring your own or: |
each person that joins the bootcamp for a half day can share one meal with the boots
each person that joins the bootcamp for a full day can share three meals with the boots
|Yes! Food staples are provided |
Boots cook for themselves
|Earn plot at Ant Village?||Maybe. Talk to paul after two months.||after 4 months in Bootcamp, you have over a year of rent|
|Choice of Activities?||With some advance notice, it might get worked out to shift bootcamp priorities so the Sepper can experience something in particular||Work on highest Bootcamp priorities|
paul wheaton wrote:
Beau Davidson wrote: I understand the risks of asking a question like this, knowing that unsupervised kids at Wheaton labs may be fed to the bears or set on top of a rocket mass barrel. However, I am curious if this program may be flexed to accommodate families where one spouse will work his tail off, and the other will stay in charge of the litter. I love the idea of raising my family in a homesteading environment.
I like the idea of doing something like that some day.
I offered something a lot like this a year and a half ago, but had no takers. I thought it would be cool to bring in three families and they could support each other. But I had zero families to try this idea.
The word "bootcamp" starts off with some meaning where a person would go and share bunks with 50 other people for three months. More recently it has come to mean something where a person will pay to go get training in something for a week to a month. And the style of training is experiential. But in neither of those scenarios is there a family.
I do think that a person could get an ant plot, build a little something for their whole family and that would work.
There have been kids here. Lots of kids. A few were amazingly cool and most were not. And since the fisher price house is not childproof, a parent needs to rain down hell on a toddler to get them to not destroy things - and in the end stuff just gets wrecked.
The thing with kids has been brought up dozens of times. For the first time ever, I'm going to do this: what do you propose?
paul wheaton wrote:Families during the bootcamp ...
Of course military bootcamp, and other bootcamps don't facilitate families, so part me wants to use the joel salatin line of "if they big guys can't figure out a way to make it work, I don't see how I can figure out a way either."
At the same time, the ponder family came and it worked great.
Further, we recently went through a wave of people wanting to come out and bring kids or spouses (or pseudo-spouses) and .... in the end ... the solution was the sepper program. Rent a structure or a tent space for the fam - and the fam feeds themselves. And then if one person wants to join the bootcamp from time-to-time we can do that. And if that one person is in the bootcamp for half the day, they get one meal, and if they are in the bootcamp for a full day, they get three meals. And everybody shares dinner on taco tuesday.