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tel jetson wrote:
you bring up a good point, Kathleen. I think there's a good chance that much of the Great Plains would better support a nomadic pastoral lifestyle than it does permanent agricultural use.
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Storm wrote:
I'd suspect not so very different.. shared desires bring folks together more often than shared histories..
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Ludi Ludi wrote:
I don't know what their way of life was like before the Spanish brought horses.
Scott Reil wrote:
hunting/gathering is all romantical and such, but it is not a viable technique for anything larger than a tribal unit, and we are a bit past that...
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maikeru wrote:
Mostly a man of the land. I need to have a place to call home, but of course I like seeing new things now and then too. New ideas, new way of life.
Len wrote:
But if you don't have a truck to move the food to you, it makes more sense to be close to where the food is. If you grow your own, you have to stay in one place while it grows, but if you gather, you must move to where the fresh food is. Best animal raising seems to be moving them often too.
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Scott Reil wrote:
Mongolian nomads move the food production with them when they go because of the herding nature of their existance. When you have thousands of miles of empty step you can do that. Try it on Manhattan. Or Boise, even. Romantic, but impractical.
If we are to to sustain current population (let alone more people) and maintain a healthy
I think Bill and Dave had the right idea, and that's why I am here. Become part of the land; this lies at the root of permaculture. Can't do that moving about.
Scott Reil wrote:
Mongolian nomads move the food production with them when they go because of the herding nature of their existance. When you have thousands of miles of empty step you can do that. Try it on Manhattan. Or Boise, even. Romantic, but impractical.
If we are to to sustain current population (let alone more people) and maintain a healthy ecosystem that provides necessary services (atmospheric recycling, water purification, carbon storage), we must shift to a less consumptive, more agrarian society that values quality food production of mostly plant sourced nutrition. Agriculture means ssettleing down; has since the very beginning. You might go as far as prot-farming in the New Guinean tradition (a style of agriculture virtually unchanged in 5000 years must have SOMETHING going for it), but even that restricts the population to a certain size (the population in New Guinea has not changed a whole lot in centuries either).
I think Bill and Dave had the right idea, and that's why I am here. Become part of the land; this lies at the root of permaculture. Can't do that moving about.
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Natasha Turner wrote:We seem to be moving every few months. Often, the places we are at do not invite permaculture principles, and I feel continually stymied. What to do?
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Len Ovens wrote:I think most nomads consider themselves to be visiting different parts of their home, especially in the past where they would move depending on time of year. Mongolia is still very much this way... to the point that it is a waste of time building a fence as it will just be removed when someone wants to go through. (burns well too)
I don't think most modern people are equipped to understand how a nomad feels about "home". I think they are nomads because they are connected to the land.... they know that winter may be milder in the north sometimes or that food may be available. Being connected to the land does not mean a one spot of land, but able to move where the land "wants" you when the time is right.
I don't know how this applies to the gypsies. (who I think are a specific group of people)
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