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Victor Johanson wrote:No need to eschew refrigeration off grid--build an icebox and let the sun make some ice:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P13.pdf
Or you could build a modern version of the IcyBall and use wood power:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icyball
http://crosleyautoclub.com/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HallPlans/IB_Directions.html
Tyler Miller wrote:I think there might be a little confusion in this thread (or maybe I'm the only one confused). Are you talking about living without cold storage, R Ranson, or are you talking about living without the modern kitchen appliance known as the refrigerator?...
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Tyler Miller wrote:
Victor Johanson wrote:No need to eschew refrigeration off grid--build an icebox and let the sun make some ice:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P13.pdf
Or you could build a modern version of the IcyBall and use wood power:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icyball
http://crosleyautoclub.com/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HallPlans/IB_Directions.html
Thanks for linking that! My grandmother told me about having an IcyBall when she was a kid. Her father was really into technology, so funnily enough they had electricity, refrigeration and indoor plumbing out at their ranch well before the people living in town did.
She said that when she visited her grandmother in town she would go out to get the butter from the well where it was left hanging in the bucket for cold storage. Obviously this was a rural town, not a city.
I'll have to ask her if she still has that IcyBall somewhere.
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Wyatt Barnes wrote:My grandmothers non electric household had a set of shelving built under a stairway that could be lowered into the basement. Basically a dumb waiter except a taller multi shelf box. Not sure what the temperature in the basement was during the summer but it would be cooler than on the main floor.
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Patricia Sanders wrote:
There's the old trick of having an ice chest open at night and then closing it in the morning, keep it in the shade during the day. We did this with eggs, cucumbers, squash, anything we'd get a large amount of that needed to be kept cool a few days until farmers market. We had a big restaurant walk-in cooler that we would keep relatively cool this way without using the compressor.
Patricia Sanders wrote:Being vegan sure simplifies things.
There's the old trick of having an ice chest open at night and then closing it in the morning, keep it in the shade during the day. We did this with eggs, cucumbers, squash, anything we'd get a large amount of that needed to be kept cool a few days until farmers market.
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Matt Powers wrote:I want a trompe powered home with cold air and water used to keep my walk-in cooler the perfect temperature
(this is the ideal lol)
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R Ranson wrote:Let's look at the challenges and solutions that come from fridge free living.
There are all sorts of reasons why I don't like refrigerators. They make noise, plastic, trap smells, freon, energy consumption, but most of all I just have a strong, irrational prejudice against them. One day, in the not too distant future, I hope to live without one. People did it before.
So what challenges have you faced when keeping food fresh without refrigeration? What solutions have you discovered?
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