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Mangalitsa Pigs for sale in MI

 
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The owner, Mark, from Bakers Green Acres, is liquidating his entire farm. That includes heritage Mangalitsa pigs originally from Hungary. First come, first served. This is a good opportunity to purchase pigs on the hoof to move on your land. Very cold hardy pig.


The farmer and family (8 kids) are moving after intense pressure from the dept of making you sad. Lots of other great animals on the hoof also available.

http://bakersgreenacres.com/?p=3278

 
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That is so sad. I remember following his story when the state (MI) came in and told him that his breed has several traits that appear in feral hogs, therefore, it was illegal for him to possess them.

The state has won the battle of driving innovative farmers away.

 
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Investigate the breed carefully before investing heavily. Know what you'll be working with, how long it takes to get to market size, how much fat vs meat, what your customers want and will buy continuously.
 
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Walter Jeffries wrote:Investigate the breed carefully before investing heavily. Know what you'll be working with, how long it takes to get to market size, how much fat vs meat, what your customers want and will buy continuously.


with these pigs, the lard is one of the major product (in my area)

these are NOT commercial hogs - most buying pigs at the prices mangalistas are going for know what they are getting into, but good advice none the less.
 
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Yes, the lard is the major product of that pig. But do you have the market for that - that is the question.

Commercial just means you make money from it. Otherwise it's a hobby which is cool too. Just be very clear with yourself as to your intentions.

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I've been following this saga for some time. The Bakers deserve none of this from the State of Michigan. This injustice is one of the many reasons I am in law school (in East Lansing, Michigan, no less!). It is a tragedy that the state would drive him out. Most recently, I saw that the state tried to shut down any butcher who would touch his meat (I loved my first job in high school, a butcher, because I could make jokes like that all day. "You can't beat our meat"). http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/blog/2015/12/18/20823/

However, and I hate to say this, because I think these hogs are a beautiful and useful addition to any farm, I will warn other Michigan people. You need to ask Mark what you're getting before you buy, because you may receive similar treatment from the State of Michigan if you buy these hogs. The state is aggressive to eradicate Russian Boar, of which these Mangalitsa's supposedly (possibly) have a smattering of genetics. To be clear, in Michigan the Russian Boar crosses are perfectly legal (as was shown in the first suit against the Bakers being dropped), but this does not guarantee you fair treatment from regulators. Outside of Michigan, check your local state regulations regarding feral hogs and russian boar. In my opinion, the addition of russian boar to Mangalitsa is an inspired combination; the flavor of boar with the lard of the mangalitsa sounds perfect. Both breeds are great foragers. This is not a warning label saying "do not buy", just please make sure you know your regulations, and if Russian Boar or even hybrids/crosses are outlawed in your state, ask Mark if these pigs have Boar genetics. If you are buying the meat to eat, savor it; I don't think there is another herd like this in the United States. Tragedy.

Andrew
 
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You cannot make a proper Hungarian sausage without the Mangalista !

Personally, I believe that it was local hog farmers that pushed the state to regulate him out of business.
 
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I think you're right, John. Michigan industrial pork producers drafted the feral hog regulation. I heard that the Bakers responded to the DNR during the comment period of the drafting process, which ridiculously tipped off the DNR to his farm.
 
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