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Gilbert Fritz wrote:Well, a year on, I have to say that cover crops established in February and March don't make any sort of significant growth by June. Also, they are outcompeted by perennial weeds.
I used some black plastic to smother the mess, and it did leave a very nice seedbed; the debris rotted, and all the annual weeds died, while the perennials were set back far enough to let us stay ahead.
I'm now thinking about using a summer growing cover crop, such as Sudan grass or sunflowers, which will die and weather overwinter and leave a nice cover on the ground by spring.
Fall planted cover crops are just too difficult to get established, as I found again this year.
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Gilbert, I lived in Aurora for 7 years, so I know what you're dealing with. If it's an option, I would bring in all those wood chips you talked about. I understand your concerns about being dependent on outside resources, but it isn't forever. If you can get 4-6 inches of mulch in, you will keep that early spring moisture for much, much longer, and that will let you get your cover crops growing. After a couple years, it kinds of steam-rolls, with your soil getting better, holding moisture better, then things grow better, then you have more mulch from your cover crops, then...
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Gilbert Fritz wrote:Hi David,
I've heard of using a living cover crop under crop plants. My reservations about a continuous living cover crop is that it may outcompete the desired plants, weeds may take advantage of it, and that there may not be enough water. I've grown both buckwheat and wheat; both were hard to harvest on a small scale, buckwheat particularly so. Weeds, in my case bindweed, can outcompete most living cover plants, unless the living cover crops were tough enough to outcompete the crops as well. Hoeing out the bindweed would destroy the cover.
I am trying to do no-till; there are many ways of doing this. Growing cover crops which are then killed by rolling or tarps is no-till, as is a deep layer of wood chips, as is a continuous living cover.
I know the natives used waffle gardens; did they use a continuous living cover?
Have you succeeded in growing vegetables with a living cover crop in New Mexico? What did you use?
Gilbert Fritz wrote:
Gilbert, I lived in Aurora for 7 years, so I know what you're dealing with. If it's an option, I would bring in all those wood chips you talked about. I understand your concerns about being dependent on outside resources, but it isn't forever. If you can get 4-6 inches of mulch in, you will keep that early spring moisture for much, much longer, and that will let you get your cover crops growing. After a couple years, it kinds of steam-rolls, with your soil getting better, holding moisture better, then things grow better, then you have more mulch from your cover crops, then...
I tried that, but I found that the cover crops wouldn't germinate in the mulch. Did you manage to get a good stand established? How did you do so? I've talked to others who say that grain type cover crops just don't like wood chips.
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Corey Schmidt wrote:Gilbert, do you have Sunchokes? they might be a good element for you since they are very cold and dry tolerant, make a lot of biomass and have some economic value ( I saw the tubers for sale in a grocery store here for something outrageous like $8/lb). Mine do well and are the most dry tolerant thing in my garden- succeeding without watering while other plants wilt.
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Gilbert Fritz wrote:Thanks for all the discussion everyone!
My main problem is that getting an annual cover (or grain crop, for that matter) established is almost impossible in this climate, except for a few weeks in spring. The scale I'm working on (quarter acre to acre size plots) makes deep mulching less desirable (it takes a surprising amount of material to cover a quarter acre with a foot of mulch), as does the fact that my soil is oversaturated with potassium, and very dense; I've dug into old mulch beds, and found the same brick-like clay a few inches from the surface. I need the rooting power of cover crops to break this up.
A perennial, spreading cover could work in theory, but most of these are aggressive and would make growing any crops with small seeds almost impossible, except by transplants. Transplanting hundreds of turnips is a lot of pointless work. Also, I'm cursed with perennial weeds; they will happily grow among a perennial cover such as clover, which will simply impede by efforts to dig them out or hoe them down. Cover crops need to be strong enough to outcompete thistle and bindweed, or grow at times of the year when thistle and bindweed are dormant. Any cover crop that can compete will compete with my vegetables.
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I have family out there, and they are trying a Zai pit approach (or you could do checkerboard mulch). This may keep the bindweed from going from one location to another since the ground in between will be like rock. That is a tough climate.
I can tell you my experience with wood chips so far has been good, and morons spray stuff here too. I try to make large piles and get high fungal mass working on it before I plant anything. One time I did not and it killed quite a few things. Is it OMRI? Heck no. But I would target soil prtection in winter which has many freeze/thaw cycles and humidity is low, so you are prone to getting sublimation. Water loss in winter is staggering and sunburn is an issue too because of the altitude. I doubt goumi will grow there (you should definitely try) but the more hardy parent plant autumn olive may.
The secret out there is that you need DEEP mulch, because you must have many effective evaporative plates to try to recondense the vapor before it reaches the surface. Only then will it make water from decomposition and keep you from having to water it. Alternatively you could put down chips and tarp them, if you could keep a tarp on in the wind out there.
I hate to say it, but that is one of the least productive climates I have seen due to the dry windy winter. I just think tchniques opimized for dry windy summers like zai pits may be the best.
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