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Glenn Herbert wrote:Dutch Elm disease hasn't made the American Elm extinct, only quite rare. A couple of giant specimens still lived around here until a year ago, and I have seen others.
yet another victim of Obsessive Weeding Disorder
Rez Zircon wrote:
Glenn Herbert wrote:Dutch Elm disease hasn't made the American Elm extinct, only quite rare. A couple of giant specimens still lived around here until a year ago, and I have seen others.
I read of one on the White House lawn that survived; supposedly this tree is over 200 years old. I don't know if the story is true.
We have elms here in Laurel, Montana. Some are quite old; others are seedlings. Nominally-dead stumps will grow sucker trees in abundance (have a bunch of those too). I can't swear to the variety but the oldest are probably over 75 years so certainly from before the plague.
I might have some seeds stashed somewhere from my elms in the SoCal desert, which was beyond the plague's reach.
Terry Calhoun
Bratsholme Farm
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20 acres, previously farmed with tree lines, 36' of elevation change over 1,300 feet of south facing slope, 7,000+ trees planted so far in previously tilled acres at a density of ~500 per acre.
Bobby Pleasant wrote:American Ash is in a league of its own. It grows extremely fast. Is just as good of a hardwood as slow growing oak and maple. It is a pioneer species, they show up in my fields every summer and fall.
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Sean Banks wrote:yeah i heard that is was illegal in some places but couldn't find evidence that anybody has every been arrested and charged for planting black locust.....99.9% of people have no clue what the difference is between a oak or an ash for example.....BUT if it is considered invasive in your area one should not succumb to selfish desires.
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Sean Banks wrote:yeah i heard that is was illegal in some places
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Tyler Ludens wrote:
Sean Banks wrote:yeah i heard that is was illegal in some places
USDA Sez Black Locust is native to every state. Not sure how it could be illegal to plant a native plant...?
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=rops
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
Cj Sloane wrote:
Tyler Ludens wrote:
Sean Banks wrote:yeah i heard that is was illegal in some places
USDA Sez Black Locust is native to every state. Not sure how it could be illegal to plant a native plant...?
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=rops
Unfortunately, it's true. Natives have been declared illegal in some states!
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I'm in n. maine and we used to have millions of elms along the rivers and fields here. when the elm disease hit it in the 70's it wiped out 95% of them. boxelder took over from the elm in wet places along the rivers and lakes. only a few single trees remain isolated along the fields. EAB has just been discovered last summer for the 1st time in maine. ash is definitely the most abundant hardwood we have around here esp in wet areas. . its going to rewrite the ecosystem here and not in a good way!Terry Paul Calhoun wrote:
Rez Zircon wrote:
Glenn Herbert wrote:Dutch Elm disease hasn't made the American Elm extinct, only quite rare. A couple of giant specimens still lived around here until a year ago, and I have seen others.
I read of one on the White House lawn that survived; supposedly this tree is over 200 years old. I don't know if the story is true.
We have elms here in Laurel, Montana. Some are quite old; others are seedlings. Nominally-dead stumps will grow sucker trees in abundance (have a bunch of those too). I can't swear to the variety but the oldest are probably over 75 years so certainly from before the plague.
I might have some seeds stashed somewhere from my elms in the SoCal desert, which was beyond the plague's reach.
I'm in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and have many, many elms, some beautifully mature, others at 20 years. They are like weeds in areas around wetness. I don't know why we have survived the disease other than that we are the highest point in the county and all the populated areas are downwind