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Can you make rain with permaculture?

 
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One year later and I'm coming back to the topic. The drought is severe and so are the fires. I know now a lot more about aborigines managing the land with fire and sadly geoengineering. I hope really that we can do something with permaculture against this onslought!
 
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Mick Fisch wrote:On a small scale, you can't make it rain with permaculture.



What about one of those water generators from air? - apparently they use some small condenser and are used in areas with not much water. Not sure how much it would be useful though.
Search for "atmospheric water generator"
 
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There is a lot of research as well
on alternative grazing techniques which build soil, improve pastures & improve water cycles.
https://regenerationinternational.org/why-regenerative-agriculture/
 
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In addition to the above, now there are studies affirming that huge mature wild forests also influence the pattern of winds, bringing moist air from the seas into the continental areas. A phenomenon called 'biotic pump' by the researchers.

https://www.science.org/content/article/controversial-russian-theory-claims-forests-don-t-just-make-rain-they-make-wind
 
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Luke Bryan wrote:

Mick Fisch wrote:On a small scale, you can't make it rain with permaculture.



What about one of those water generators from air? - apparently they use some small condenser and are used in areas with not much water. Not sure how much it would be useful though.
Search for "atmospheric water generator"



Luke, you are right! Water can be made from the air though it is not rain.  This technique works and these threads will explain:

https://permies.com/t/airwell

https://permies.com/t/35795/AIR-WELLS-information

There are a lot of techniques that can be implemented:

https://permies.com/t/138768/Water-Plants-Trees-Drought-Conditions

https://permies.com/t/58559/Big-Fat-Thread-Dryland-Farming

Building up the soil will help plants not need as much water:

https://permies.com/t/63914/Soil

Dr. Bryant Redhawk's Soil Series:

https://permies.com/wiki/redhawk-soil
 
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"Can you make rain with permaculture" is this topic:

I say yes you can and it is very easy:

Stop thinking the tree I would like to plant will not make a change against the expanding drought

Start thinking MY tree I just planted is the tripping point from drought to rain

and if there is not difference plant one more, persuade your neighbor by gifting him/her a tree that will be the tripping point and let him/her continue to do this until all see the first cloud since many years...

actually so simple, isn't it?

Hence the answer is:  "Yes you can make rain with permaculture"
 
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This phenomenon puzzled scientists. Now one team of researchers in the US believe they have the answer: the trees make their own rain. Transpiration is a well-known part of photosynthesis, where moisture is drawn up by plant roots, gathers on leaves and then evaporates into the atmosphere.



https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/how-trees-in-the-amazon-make-their-own-rain/
 
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Does anyone know if the Chinese Loess plateau afforestation created any increase in rainfall? I couldn't find anything with google.
 
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