Do any of your breeds in particular seem to be tree-happy? Depending on how high they go up (and how well they do at surviving), I think this would be an interesting trait to have once I get my own place! It would be nice to have the chickens take care of themselves so I don't have to let them out/in every morning/night.Mary Cook wrote:Actually it's NOW that I have lots of stupid chickens insisting on sleeping in the trees near the coop, instead of in it.
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Chickens DESTROY. I can let ducks free range in the garden, and they don't really kill anything, and they eat the spiders and rollipollies that eat my plants. I'll fence them out if I'm sprouting peas or beans, but other than that, I really don't worry about them. If a chicken gets in a garden, that garden is tilled and destroyed in like 30 minutes. 1 chicken in garden bed = mass destruction.
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The problem is more one of philosophy. Part of my critter care ideals is to not have any animal I am not willing or able to eat. While I might not dash right out to slaughter a hen, especially a favorite one, I *could*. I just wouldn't like it. Because I have managed to give my husband food poisoning with the two ducks I have tried to cook, he refuses to try to eat any more duck. I don't blame him at all, after all food poisoning two out of two times is a bit much. I don't care for the flavor of duck meat, myself. So, based on our "rules", no ducks.
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Cécile Stelzer Johnson wrote:Living in a cold area, I would agree with Skandi: While I might like to try raising ducks for eggs, (and some ducks give almost as many eggs), my main problem is not having a frost-free pond for those ducks, so in the winter, I cannot keep ducks, period.
For eggs, the ISA reds are my choice: They lay eggs reliably in the winter as well.
For meat, it is a horse apiece: the white Leghorn can be raised very successfully, and if you respect the way they must be raised [keep food away at night, make sure to have a butchering appointment 8 weeks after you get them, keep them super clean because past a certain age, they will not roost, so cleanliness becomes an issue], you will have large tender and meaty chickens to fill your freezer in just 8 weeks.
For ducks, my only experience is with the big white Pekin, and for those, same thing: Respect the way they must be raised. They won't be as tricky as the white Leghorn: They are, by nature a large bird and contrary to the white Leghorn chicken, beside the tender meat, it will also have a thick layer of fat. When you roast it, this necessitate holding it up so you can harvest the fat separately.
Another problem with ducks is you must pick very carefully the butchering time to avoid pinfeathers!:
Trading Feathers says:" Timing of the harvest will go a long way to saving you countless hours of plucking. You'll want to harvest when it's the easiest to get all the feathers out. This is when the feathers are all mature and there are no pin (or immature) feathers, which means at 7, 12-1/2 and 18 weeks of age. Some folks will opt to butcher them themselves. If you do, you could examine the bird and gently look deep in for pinfeathers. Butcher in the period when they don't have any...
As far as other traits, some depend on the breed, but chickens will scratch all your crops out if they get a chance while ducks, who do not scratch the ground, won't do it. So it is more important to keep the "freedom lovers" confined to paddocks.
The white Pekins I had didn't fly, so that's another plus. Some ducks do fly, however, so you have to take precautions or get a breed that doesn't fly.
I found my white Pekins to be well behaved and very easy to herd: they move together. Chickens, on the other hand, will each go their own way when you press them to go somewhere. That's not a big problem except perhaps on butchering day! They will otherwise move back in the coop when it starts to get dark: They have very poor night vision, so perhaps the first or second time, you have to move them and it's a chore. On day 3, I try to have a signal, like I go there with a flashlight. Seeing the light triggers them to go in, or I place the light in the coop and move them gently toward it. They end up getting the message, but they are so much more stupid than ducks!
As far as getting along with them, I definitely prefer ducks. They went in at night with a minimum of "suggesting".
For ducks, I had a straight run, so there were males in the group as well, but because they get butchered before their sexuality totally awakens, I've never had aggressive ganders. With chickens, since you keep them for eggs, you will once in a while encounter a very aggressive roo and you may have to butcher it if it gets too far.
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