Hi! I'm Paul Wheaton; and this is my 9th Kickstarter. [collage of kickstarters, ending with BWB atop the pile.]
One big challenge to building a better world in your backyard is answering the question, "How do I deal with my Greywater, responsibly and safely?" [turn to BWB page 94-96, then quickly cut to pics of greywater garden in sunny place]
"In the winter? In Montana? Or any other cold climate?" [show pic(s) of snow-swept, frozen landscape.]
The answer; is a greenhouse. But not just any greenhouse. [collage of Oehler greenhouse with markups, other schematics]
An experimental greenhouse, incorporating devious designs nobody has tried yet, to ensure the greenhouse is always warm, even in the harshest Montana Winter. [quick cut back to snowy landscape]
(insert "I know what you're thinking...An always-warm greenhouse in Montana?" and design details here, if necessary)
As with any good experiment, we're going to log and record and document the heck out of this. Including making a movie of the entire process. [collage of logging thermometers, graph paper, sciencey things]
That's where you come in. [faceless cutout, labeled "YOU", with thought bubble, "Me?"]
Your help will fund not only building this experimental always-warm greywater greenhouse; but the thorough documentation of the design, building, data logging, stumbles, and successes. ["me?" person successively surrounded in images of the documentation example list]
Regardless of whether my devious designs create the greenhouse of my dreams, you'll get a movie showing the whole process from start to finish. [atop collage of documentation images, video snippet of Paul in labcoat]
While the greenhouse is an experiment, the movie documenting the greenhouse is not. [orderly laying out of all DVD's]
I've successfully funded and delivered N movies, and several of those amidst huge hurdles and comedy.
This time, we have our seasoned Wheaton Labs video crew ready to go. [cutouts of Josiah and Jen and video equipment]
And a bootcamp full of people, hungry to build this experimental greenhouse. [cutouts Paul & Fred and boots et al (i.e. everyone) join Josiah and Jen, a veritable crowd of people]
After sharing this idea in my Better World Book and on my podcast, it seems that a LOT of people want me to shift my priorities and do this project NOW! [new crowd, chanting now! now! now!]
So much so that they are waving fistfuls of cash in my general direction. [fistfuls of cash]
This is the big kickstarter question. Is there enough interest in solving this problem of responsible greywater processing during the Montana winter to fund a movie documenting the experiments and solutions? [fade to black]
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paul wheaton wrote:
Ian Sa wrote:in the email I recd it asked about ideas for a greenhouse in Montana.
If this the correct thread AND IF you are looking for ideas I recommend watching
the youtube - search
Growing Oranges in the Snow in Nebraska.
Truly inspiring
7 amps is a lot of power.
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Phil Swindler wrote:Are you ready for questions and comments about the project yet?
I'm wondering about that 20 ft well casing.
Are you trying to hit ground water or stay above ground water?
Some places here in Kansas the ground water is way deeper than 20 ft.
In my neighborhood the ground water is only a couple feet below my basement.
Do you know how deep your ground water is?
Do you care?
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Pearl Sutton wrote:Maybe having a copy of the building plans as candy would attract some people?
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Doug Barth wrote:Paul, this project is a home run.
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Nicole Alderman wrote:I'm trying to envision what this would look like. Would it look a lot like the Oehler greenhouse? (It's hard to find good pictures of one of those! Anyone have any links to nice Oehler greenhouse designs?)
I whipped up this graphic, but I'm not even sure it's even close to what we're thinking of...
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Ryan Haffele wrote:Paul, I think this is an excellent idea! Especially since I have money to put towards the Kickstarter!
BTW, I thought the rewards and stretch goals for your previous Kickstarter were great!
Kerry Rodgers wrote:
Example of "I didn't know (or possibly just didn't remember) about that":
* Discussing anti-stratification tube with Mike O.
* The two well casings idea.
Example of "other type people may think it long". I was thinking about the point of view of people who are not already familiar with the following (two minutes of jargon-I-dont-know can seem a long time):
* whoiswas Mike Oehler?
* what is a berm?
* do greenhouses have a "walkway"?
* what is stratification?
* what is a well casing?
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Kerry Rodgers wrote:
The $100 level is really awesome--a big jump from $50. I notice that you got a decent number of supporters at the $150 and $200 levels in the last 2 kickstarters (I didn't look further back than that). What about dividing the $100 rewards between a $100 level and a (slightly) higher level? Possible division strategies might be 1 meeting vs 3 meetings, or not-getting-weekly vs getting weekly updates.
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Mike Haasl wrote:Would it be possible to mount a camera or three somewhere near the action that could just watch and listen to the build in action? If there was a camera looking over the team's shoulder and hearing them joke/sing/scheme among themselves and see the stuff getting nailed together it would be damn awesome. And some folks may pay to have access to that feed. Especially if they could watch it later and speed it up or skip the boring parts. The camera may need to be moved several times as the project proceeds.
Maybe this is what it intended in the RAW bundle? I'm trying to give people an option where they can be right there in the action and hear the conversations as they happen.
Oh, maybe for an extra $500 they could have someone's cell number so they can text "Hey, you may want to flip that log over because there's an ugly spot on that side". Then they're really feel like they're in on the build.
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Justin Gerardot wrote:I would support at a higher level for a sketchup file or detailed plans. I will be glad to encourage innovation with some of that stimulus money. I can't think of any better use of it
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Ash Jackson wrote:
Lead up: How does one month of lead-time compare to your other kickstarters? In my ignorance I'm concerned whether one month is enough time for pre-marketing for it to be as smashing a success as I hope it to be. I see it as a question of, "how many hurdles can you clear?" My understanding is there are currently a couple of extra hurdles for kickstarters in general.
Candy: BWB KS shows you have a really good handle on this, in my opinion. And a great deal of generosity. Not sure I can add anything, except to offer My PEP Badge Tracker as a potential freebie on the pile of freebies.
Title: The Always-Warm Greenhouse in Montana Experiment (Movie) [56 char]
Script: General Ideas
- Borrowing from the BWB video, I'd consider skipping over the details of the design and experiments. I think it's sufficient to say something like "I have devious plots to improve this."
Please borrow, steal, or ignore as needed.
{edits in squiggles}
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Greg Martin wrote:
Not what you guys would probably want to do on the Abbey site, but if you had a nicely sloped lot I suppose you could use thermal gradients to drive something like the Citrus in the snow system passively. Your 20' pipes will function similarly. If your water table was much higher than 20' on a site I suppose you could do the same but at an angle.
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"Hundreds of years from now it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in or the type of car I drove... But the world may be different because I did something so bafflingly crazy that it becomes a tourist destination"
paul wheaton wrote:
Title: The Always-Warm Greenhouse in Montana Experiment (Movie) [56 char]
Easily achieved with an electric heater. Which is why I like "truly passive". Maybe "truly passive" can be replaced with "zero energy"?
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"Hundreds of years from now it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in or the type of car I drove... But the world may be different because I did something so bafflingly crazy that it becomes a tourist destination"
paul wheaton wrote:
Greg Martin wrote:
Not what you guys would probably want to do on the Abbey site, but if you had a nicely sloped lot I suppose you could use thermal gradients to drive something like the Citrus in the snow system passively. Your 20' pipes will function similarly. If your water table was much higher than 20' on a site I suppose you could do the same but at an angle.
Like the lemon tree site?
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I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but, I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
paul wheaton wrote:I put the plans in at the $25 level - but that cannot be a for sure thing until Kyle says what he is cool with.
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Paul Wheaton wrote:Maybe we put some emphasis on "the problem":
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paul wheaton wrote:Talking about the design: Let's hold off two more days to get some drawings that show what is being planned.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but, I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
paul wheaton wrote:
Ian Sa wrote:in the email I recd it asked about ideas for a greenhouse in Montana.
If this the correct thread AND IF you are looking for ideas I recommend watching
the youtube - search
Growing Oranges in the Snow in Nebraska.
Truly inspiring
7 amps is a lot of power.
Greg Martin wrote:
paul wheaton wrote:
Title: The Always-Warm Greenhouse in Montana Experiment (Movie) [56 char]
Easily achieved with an electric heater. Which is why I like "truly passive". Maybe "truly passive" can be replaced with "zero energy"?
I was thinking the same thing (zero energy), but it relies on geothermal and solar. Is "Geothermal solar greenhouse" with some more words (break the bank-less?) too much?
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I’m Paul Wheaton and this is my ninth kickstarter. I’m bonkers about experiments -- experiments with rocket mass heaters, experiments with replacing irrigation with permaculture, experiments with round wood timber framing, and experiments with annualized thermal inertia.
I shared an idea with my podcast listeners and it seems that a LOT of people want me to shift my priorities and do this experiment NOW! So much so that they are waving fistfuls of cash in my general direction. [. . . Wait--are those singles?]
The idea starts with how greywater systems will not work in our Montana winters. But a small greenhouse could fix that! The problem is that most greenhouses need to be heated in winter, and they need a lot of care. It would be better to have a fully passive greenhouse that uses no energy AT ALL, not even a fan, and doesn’t have any moving parts that might break or need maintenance.
Mike Oehler’s ingenious design is close - he was able to get his tomatoes to grow in December in north idaho with zero energy. I talked to mike, shortly before he died, about some improvements. And since then I’ve come up with a couple more. Rolling all of these designs together, I think we can build a truly passive year round greenhouse in Montana.
Will it work? This leads to the big Kickstarter question: do you want us to try?
Mike Haasl wrote:Would the greywater plants be along the window or the back planting bed? In midsummer there wouldn't be any direct light to the north bed.
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Ash Jackson wrote:
paul wheaton wrote:I put the plans in at the $25 level - but that cannot be a for sure thing until Kyle says what he is cool with.
I'll volunteer to be on the drawing team.
I'm guessing I'm 4th-string behind Jesse, Davin, and Kyle.
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Jennifer Richardson wrote:Here is the new, more polished version of our promo video script. We are feeling like this is probably our final version, and we are ready to record.
I’m Paul Wheaton and this is my ninth kickstarter. I’m bonkers about experiments -- experiments with rocket mass heaters, experiments with replacing irrigation with permaculture, experiments with round wood timber framing, and experiments with annualized thermal inertia.
I shared an idea with my podcast listeners and it seems that a LOT of people want me to shift my priorities and do this experiment NOW! So much so that they are waving fistfuls of cash in my general direction. [. . . Wait--are those singles?]
The idea starts with how greywater systems will not work in our Montana winters. But a small greenhouse could fix that! The problem is that most greenhouses need to be heated in winter, and they need a lot of care. It would be better to have a fully passive greenhouse that uses no energy AT ALL, not even a fan, and doesn’t have any moving parts that might break or need maintenance.
Mike Oehler’s ingenious design is close - he was able to get his tomatoes to grow in December in north idaho with zero energy. I talked to mike, shortly before he died, about some improvements. And since then I’ve come up with a couple more. Rolling all of these designs together, I think we can build a truly passive year round greenhouse in Montana.
Will it work? This leads to the big Kickstarter question: do you want us to try?
My book, my movies, my videos, my podcasts, my events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Tis the season for wood heat
I’m Paul Wheaton and this is my ninth kickstarter. I’m bonkers about experiments -- experiments with rocket mass heaters, experiments with replacing irrigation with permaculture, experiments with round wood timber framing, and experiments with annualized thermal inertia.
I shared an idea with my podcast listeners and it seems that a LOT of people want me to shift my priorities and do this experiment NOW! So much so that they are waving fistfuls of cash in my general direction. [. . . Wait--are those singles?]
The idea starts with how greywater systems will not work in our Montana winters. But a small greenhouse could fix that! The problem is that most greenhouses need to be heated in winter, and they need a lot of care. It would be better to have a fully passive greenhouse that uses no energy AT ALL, not even a fan, and doesn’t have any moving parts that might break or need maintenance.
Mike Oehler’s ingenious design is close - he was able to get his tomatoes to grow in December in north idaho with zero energy. I talked to mike, shortly before he died, about some improvements. And since then I’ve come up with a couple more. Rolling all of these designs together, I think we can build a truly passive year round greenhouse in Montana.
The devious plot at this time is to video the whole process (the design, the build, the greywater system, and a winter of testing) so kickstarter supporters get a movie out of it. So waddya say: do you want us to try?
this was due to ash's suggestions. Thanks Ash!
paul wheaton wrote:
I think this is an excellent idea, but I am a little worried about implementation. If people are familiar with AT&T data plans, they might be able to tell us how plausible this might be.
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