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I'm pretty sure Paul wants one for each.
 
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The results of the carve a spoon BB...



I may have to try again... with proper tools this time!
 
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Oooh, new toystools!!!  I'd carve the hollow first, then whittle away everything else until it looks glorious.

I did a few electrical straw BBs last night and linked them to the badge.  If anyone wants to check them over, feel free to let me know if they look good:

https://permies.com/wiki/138097/PEP-BB-electricity-straw-Vcircuit
https://permies.com/wiki/138095/PEP-BB-electricity-straw-outletcircuit
https://permies.com/wiki/138093/PEP-BB-electricity-straw-lightcircuit
 
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They look good to me Mike! I might have to start on my sand badges for electricity!

I'm hoping to convert my shed into a tiny house this Summer. I'm guessing it will give me the opportunity to gain some BBs!
 
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Thanks and yes, lots of BBs to get if you're electrifying a shed
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:Actually, I sent a link to R to see if she spots anything.  There could be other subtleties to keep in mind.  So maybe hold off on doing more until she weighs in.  Thanks!



Hey Mike, R took a look and gave it her approval. So I'm going to go ahead and continue with my two current tasks:

- combing through Sand-level, to ensure all Sand BB's exist (anyone in a badge, feel free to tell me to keep out)
- creating sub-forums for each aspect/badge, and shuffling things around accordingly
 
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Awesome, thanks for getting her blessing!
 
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Ashley Cottonwood wrote:The results of the carve a spoon BB...

I may have to try again... with proper tools this time!



Those are fine lookin' tools. I'm jealous.
 
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haha not the kind of pepper action I was expecting. Have to say y'all are nailing it lately!!!
 
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We're always looking for more PEPPERS :)

Some of the posts in the thread may seem scary (confusing?)to people who are new to the forums but there are easy ways to help.  
 
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Created the sub-forums, and shuffled things around accordingly, up to (including) Animal Care.

Also created these BB's:

- https://permies.com/wiki/138196/PEP-BB-Food-sand-pressure
- https://permies.com/wiki/138186/PEP-BB-naturalbuilding-sand-whitewash
- https://permies.com/wiki/138220/PEP-BB-animal-sand-dailyquad

I'm going to keep going on this track until I'm all the way through sand.
 
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Hey Mike, crazy idea, but what if the white box on the top of the main PEP forum page had all 22 badge images?

It'd look something like this:



(I recognize it's more of a 'nice-to-have' than a 'need-to-have.')
 
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Now we're definitely in the realm of getting input from Paul.  If they were links directly to the badges, it would be pretty nifty.  Is that even possible?
 
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Yes, It's very much possible to have an image be a link. That bit is coded as HTML.

R gave the green-check-mark-of-envy-and-approval to my adding the badge image to the individual sub-forums. So I've taken that as a cue to continue that.

I'll be interested to hear Paul's thoughts on dressing up the main PEP page.
 
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Awesome!  One detail that may or may not matter is that we want the software to eventually auto link your badges in your signature to the post where you asked to be certified for that badge.  So if someone clicks on your Rocket badge, it takes you HERE.  So that link would be different for each person's signature line badges.  Hopefully what you're talking about would be separate and not affect those plans.
 
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Oh wow! That'd be cool.

It shouldn't disturb that. For the purposes of this discussion, the text in that white box is not fundamentally different than the text in, say, a thread post (as far as I understand it)
 
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Found this BB was marked needing attention.

https://permies.com/wiki/110313/pep-electricity/PEP-BB-electricity-sand-installoutlet

Mike, do you know DC electrical stuff?
 
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Lee Johnson wrote:Found this BB was marked needing attention.

https://permies.com/wiki/110313/pep-electricity/PEP-BB-electricity-sand-installoutlet

Mike, do you know DC electrical stuff?


Not really.  I could fake it but if anyone out there knows a bit about it already that would be much better.  
 
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Give me a few days & I'll remedy that DC stuff. My data usage is right on the edge of needing a renewal & trying to conserve for a few more days until I have time to jump through that fun new interweb no cash no stores hoop. The last 2 pix in the BB are definitely wrong, for the reason Shawn stated. I don't watch videos so have no idea about that first part.
 
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Mike Barkley wrote:...I don't watch videos so have no idea about that first part.



Thanks, Mike.

The first two videos are talking about (what looks like) normal electrical work. The third video is for sure talking about 12v wiring; though to a "normal" 3-prong outlet. Not sure if that's the intent.
 
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I poked through about 6 electrical Straw BBs last night.  I had a few where they were a combo with Plumbing.  So I wrote them up this way: https://permies.com/wiki/138324/pep-electricity/PEP-BB-electricity-straw-shallowpump#1085034

I figured there would be another BB in Plumbing for the same task but it would focus on the plumbing side of the job.  

That way if someone is in a place where they can do one portion of the job but need a licensed pro to do the other part, they get the appropriate credit.

It also had a range of points so I listed out how the points should be awarded.  This is to help the evaluators to have an easier job when they have to award points.  If you're doing a BB and you don't have a guess as to how the points should split up, just leave a note there asking for help and hopefully someone will fill that in for you.
 
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Liv and Beau, sorry if we've been talking about some really complicated corners of the PEP and BB system lately.  How are you coming with your BB construction efforts?
 
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Well then, the vids might be appropriate IF we show some appropriate DC outlets & plugs & properly explain the need for using those. It's a safety thing.

If someone accidentally plugs a 12 volt device into a 120 volt outlet it will get exciting fast, in a bad way. The basic idea is to physically prevent that from happening.

 
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It's best to get videos that properly show what we want the BB to be about.  Every little detail doesn't need to be correct or applicable but we don't want to show a dangerous amateur attempt as our example.
 
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In a call with Paul this morning, we decided to change how the titles of BB posts should be.  Instead of:

PEP BB gardening.sand.hugelkultur - build a hugelkultur

We're going to go with:

Build a hugelkultur - gardening.sand.hugelkultur PEP BB

Same words, just a different arrangement.  It should look better when scanning the forums and if people are searching for it on the google it may look more clickable.  I already updated the directions in How to create a BB page for PEP
 
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Okay. I'm on Dad-time all this weekend, but I can start chipping away at that for sand badges on Monday (unless someone else beats me to it)
 
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It's all yours!  

I also just added two more Sand level Animal Care badges.

We're getting close on the rest of the Animal Care levels.  Can't wait to get that one done and move on to the next one...
 
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Sorry I’ve been absent here. Life just threw some heavy things my way. I will try to work on BB’s in the next couple of days.
 
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No worries, Liv!  We all have to take a turn on that ride. My turn was over the winter, and again this coming May.

We'll see you on the other side
 
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I think I'll be able to post some suitable DC connectors tonight. What else might that thread need? Sorry but I just can't watch videos for the foreseeable future.

Should I modify the existing PEP wiki or use bits of it to make my own pending approval from Mike or Paul?
 
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You can modify the existing BB with new pics, delete the incorrect videos and change any text, requirements, etc that you feel would make it better.  Let us know once you're through with it and we'll give it a look-see.

Thanks!
 
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It's in a usable state now but I do want to work on it again soon to make it better & more useful.
 
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Thanks Mike!  I did a bit of editing on it too but I didn't change any words.  Feel free to make whatever other changes you want.  
 
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Added some useful links & read the previous links closer. Still can't watch the video in one of the previous links so it might be wise for someone to verify that isn't something inappropriate. Other than that I'm comfortable that the DC outlet BB is good to go.





 
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